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PROCEEDINGS IN THE Fifth Session or tue Fifth PARLIAMENT OF THE UNITED
KINGDOM OF GREAT BRITAIN AND IRELAND ; continued from p. 361. House of COMMONS, March 18. vernment that measures should be adoptMr. Huskisson stated that to complete the ed with the view of ameliorating, as far as new line of coinmunication from the south to possivie, the situatiou of the Slaves.
Ac. the North parts of the Metropolis, 600,0001. counts have since been received that at was required. The Royal Exchange As. Jamaica al Act has been passed for the surance Coinpaoy being unable to advance Registraiion of Slaves; and also en Act for, more than one half of this sum, the Bank giving f.eater effect to the Abolition of of England had agreed to advance the the Siave Trailela Bar)adoes also an. other half. He now applied for leave to Act had been passed for the Registration bring in a Bill to enable ine Crowa to bor. of Slavex; and in St. Vincent's a similar Act Tow this money upon the security of its had bern introduced, but had been delaylanded possessions.
ed on account of some forms. Accounts Mr. Littleton reprehended the dangerous, of a similar uature were expec'ed from minoral, and fraudulent wode of raising the other Islands by the next mails. money by Lotteries. The gross sum ac, cruing annually to the revenue from Lit..
Aiarch 24. teries was 500,000!. He characterized the The Bill to prevent Seditious Meetings, present scheine as being a fraud upon the being rep tell, Viscount Sirmouth propublick : the chance of any great prize posed a clause to prohibit public intelings was about 71 to 1. He feared that a cer within a mile of the two loures of Para tain degree of patronage formed one of liament wlien si ting, or of in Courts of the motives for supporting the present sys.. Justice when sitting at Wesiminsier.' tem of Lotteries. In England there were Lord Sl. John thought the clause tended four places o! 5001. a year each attached to embarrass the right of bolding public, to this institution, five of 3501. one of 3001., merkings. one of 2301., twenty-one of 2001., sixo: 1001. The Earl of Rosslyn observed, that this 10 150!. , and he had no hesitation in sayo, clause would prevent the inhabitants of, ing, that these places were altogether sine. Westminster froin exercising a privilege cures. In Ireland, there was the first com. which was possessed by the inhabitants of missioner, Sir. A. Alexander, at 3001. a every other part of London. year; four other comınissioners, at 2001. ; The clause was agreed to, iwo cert ficaled commissioners, at 1001 ; two comptrollers, at 1001. ; one tamp
March 25. ooinp: ruller, at 1411.; two clerks, a160/.; two The third reading of the Seditious Meet. ai 501. There was Mr. Thompson, who had ings Bill was opposed at some length by beep an absentee 16 years, received 2501. Lord Erskine, who concluded his speech a year : in fact, no Lotteries bad been with the following declaration : "Just so drawn in Irland for 16 years. The Hon. was it with measures for keeping down, Gent. concluded by proposing, Ist, That freedom--in the stagnation of public senby the system of State Lotteries, a «pirit timent, in the destruction of its vivifying of gambling was promoted, destructive lo principles, you encountered infinitely more. the morals of the people, and detrimental danger thau from its excesses, He did to the revenue uf the country. 2d, That not now hold the opinions that he did when this House will no longer authorize the he formerly signed a paper upon the subexistence of Siate Lotteries.
ject of Parliamentary Reform; he did not The Chancellor of the Exchequer, Mr. W. now bold these opinions to the same ex. Ward, and Lord Castlereagh, contended, tent; and to those who said he ougbt to that the evils flowing from Lotteries had be consistent, he would say he was bound been greatly lessened; and that, if this to not ing but a faithful discharge of his source of revenue was taken away, it would
duties as a Member of Parliament. But be difficult to supply it by fresh taxes. let every man have the same freedom of The motion was negatived, by 73 to 26.
opinions, and let not that freedoin be sbackled by unnecessary fetters.
He House Of LORDS, March 20.
thought this Bill pregnant with danger to In reply to a question put by Lord the liberty of the subject, from the powers Grenville, Earl Dathurst stated, that a cir. given by it to a single Magistrate io precular was sent to the Governors of all the vent, at bis discretion, the right of petiIslands in the West Indies having local tiuning from being exercised, and that legislatures, stating the desire of the Go. Magistrate appointed by the Crown. With GENT. Mac. May, 1817,
these views of the subject, and considering of what had been done, and of what the this measure as calculated to excite dis- Committee in: ended still further to do. content, instead of allaying it, by the ob The Report was then ordered to be stacles it threw in the way of the fair and printed. proper expression of public opinion by means of petition, by its leaving it to the
HOUSE OF LORDs, March 29. discretion of a single Magistrate to pre The Lord Chancellor, Lord Liverpool, vent every kind of meeting for that pur. and Lord Bathurst, as his Majesty's compose, he felt it his duty to oppose the Bill.” missioners, declared the Royal Assent to
The Duke of Sussex, following on the the Eighteen Millions Exchequer Bills ; same side, contended that the measure the Pig and Bar Iron Exportation, the was a serious infringement upon the rights Court of Exchequer Cause, the Northampand liberties of the subject.
ton Judges' Lodging, and sereral private Viscount Sidmouth proposed to with. Bills. draw the clause brought forward yesterday
March 31. for the prevention of public meetings with. The Royal Assent was given by comin a mile of Westminster Hall; for the mission to the Seditious Meetings Bill, purpose of proposing an amendment, ex. and Naval Officers Pay Bill. cepting that part of the Parish of St. Paul's Covent-garden, and of the Borough of In the Commons, the same day, the Southwark, within the distance described Chancellor of the Exchequer moved, tbat in the clause. He also proposed to have the House at its rising should adjoarn till this clause inserted in the permaneot part Monday se'nnight, of tbe Bill
Mr. Ponsonby said, he should not hare The clause was agreed to; and the third objected even to a longer adjouroment: reading of the Bill was carried by 111 but he could not avoid observing, that the to 93.
House was now separating after the Royal
Assent had been given to the last of a House of COMMONS, Murch 27. series of coercive measures - measures Mr. Gilbert brought up the first Report which, it was true, were rendered necessary of the Committee appointed by the House by the public distress, which bad proto inquire into all the reductions which, duced the immediate cause for them ; but consistently with the safety of the State, Parliament was about to adjourd without could be effecled in the public expendi- having done any thing but enact those ture. The Report was read; and began coercive measures : he hoped, therefore, by stating that the subject was not new to that before the House met again, bis Mathe House, as in 1812 and 1813 mea- jesty's Ministers would have taken some sures had been adopted in it. The Com step towards the alleviation of those dismittee had inquired, ist, what reductions
He did expect much from the it was possible to make; 2dly, what com exertions of the Committee that was sit. pensations should be given to persons ting; and he hoped that, on the reture of holding high and effective offices; and the House, his Majesty's Ministers, and 3dly, what offices might be reduced which the Committee together, would be able to were considered in the nature of sioecures, state that something had been done. He and that all such offices should be as soon should not have objected to a looger adas possible abolished after the deaths of journment if such a hope were held out; their respective holders. The Committee and even if it were not, the state of the recommended the abolition of the Chief Speaker's bealth would prevent him from Justiceship North and South of the Trent, opposing the motion. of the Auditorship of the Exchequer, of Mr. Canning trusted that the Right the Clerk of the Pells, the four Tellerships Hon. Gentleman would pot be disappointof the Exchequer, the Lord Warden of the ed in his expectation concerning the atCinque Ports, the Governor of the Isle of tention which the Committee and his Ma. Wight, and the Commissary - general of jesty's Ministers would bestow on the subMusters. (Hear, hear, hear!) The Com- ject before them: but, if the Right Hoo. mittee considered such offices ought to be Gentleman laid in his claim for a sudden abolished. Jo presenting this Report the and complete removal of all the distresses Committee s'ated that they had lost nu of the couutry, he claimed what is beyond time in considering the matters referred to the reach of Ministers to effect, and put them, and had made their report as early impossibilities to be performed by human as possible ; apd had not omitted to attend · means. to every measure of real and practical Mr. Brougham, in the course of economy. The clerk was proceeding to loog speech, observed, he was pot so read the remainder of the report, but Mr. Sauguine on the labours of the Committee D. Gilbert suggested this was not necessa as his honourable friend (Mr. Ponsonby): ry, as what had been read was sufficient to for he well recollected the origin of that Five the Members of that House an idea Committee, and the manner in which it
was composed. He well recollected, that (Mr. Curwen) the state of his measures the appointment of the Committee was not respecting the Poor Laws. conceded as a boon by Ministers, but ex. Mr. Brougham and Mr. Curwen mutistorted in consequence of a notice givea ally disclaimed any idea of superseding from an honourable friend of bis, that each other's measures; and the latter gensuch a Committee would be moved for. tleman stated, that he had experienced He must say one word, too, on a disap every assistance from a Noble Lord (Cas. pointment of another kind, which, he fore- tlereagh) to whom he had submitted his saw, must occur. - He was afraid, after plans. What would eventually be done all the pains that had been taken to pre most depend on his Majesty's Ministers. vent the people of Westminster from meet. His intention was to propose that personal ing, that if the House expected no meet properly and the public funds should be ings would take place within a mile, they subjected to the poor rates (Hear, hear!) would be grievously disappointed. — (He Mr. Calcraft expressed his belief that then explained this, by pointing out flaws in Ministers would not concur in any plan to the Act. )-tle concurred with his hononra. render the public funds liable to the poor
ble friend in the hope that something would rates. ( Hear, hear!) In the two months · be effected during the recess towards alle. which the House had sat, but little had riating the distress that so loudly demanded been done; and he was afraid the people attention; and he hoped also, that during would be disappointed with respect to the the adjournment no steps would be taken Finance Committee. by Ministers touching the affairs of South Lord Binning, and Messrs. Sturges America ; or any thing done to impede Bourne, and F. Lewis, defended the Fiuance the independence of those Colovies - an Cumınittee. object, the accomplishment of which every liberal inind must so arden:ly desire. He
April 14. trusted that Ministers would not commit The House mei, pursuant to adjourn. the country in the way of inediation, more ment. 'The Deputy-Clerk read a letter than they had committed it already. from Mr. Speaker, excusing himself for
Mr. B. Bathurst stated, that the Bill not atrending, on account of indisposition. did not apply to meetings held wbile Par. The Chancellor of the Exchequer observliament was not sitting : that he believed ed, that a duty fell on him which must be the Courts of Justice had the power of a paipiul consideration to all: but it was preventing meetings in Westminster hall consolatory that it gave an opportunity lo during the time ihey were employed there; the House of passing an unanimous vote, and that, at all events, Mr. Fox had on in consequence of the ill healih of their one occasiou submitted to their authority estimable Speaker. His health hail, inon such an occasion. Notwithstanding deed, been much sacrificed recently by his the defects of the Bill, which were no secret anxiety and late sittiogs in the chair, iu to Ministers, he declared it a salutary which those who bad most observed his measure. It was true, that the prevailing conduct would be most deeply impressed distress was the cause of the measure, for with a feeling of his integrity, attention, that distress had laid the people open to and ability. He therefore proposed to the arls of designing men. It was impos. adjourn to April 24. sible to hope that any measures could en Mr. Ponsonby said, he cheerfully contirely remove that distress ; but every ex. curred in the motion. He regretted exerlion would be made with the hope of al. tremely the cause of the present interleviating it.
raption of the Session, and wished that Mr. Curwen said, that in that branch of the great anxiety of the Speaker in his althe question which he had brought before tention to his duties had not urged him the House (the Poor Laws), a plan of relief receoily to sit in the chair so long. He would be devised, which would be effectual had observed its effects on bis health more to a considerable extent. He believed than once, when business was long and that his Majesty's Ministers were in earnest pressing. To his attent:on and anxiety upon all these subjects, for they had lis. They might principally attribute the sevetened to every suggestion.
rity of his indisposition. He thought the Mr. Bennel asked if there was any proposed adjournment due to the long fruib in the report that Marylebone Church, Services and tried ability of the Speaker; which stood on the property of the Duke 80 that he should, if possible, be restored of Portland, was to be made over to Go. to the House with his accustomed health veroment, and Crown property given the and his known ability. Duke elsewhere jo exchange. The office Mr. Grallan heartily concurred in the of sexton in that church was worth 10001. motion. per aneum; that of clerk 10001.; and there were other offices in proportion, all which
April 24. influence was to be added to the Crown. The Speaker (Mr. Abbot) addressed the He tben inquired of an loo, Member Ilouse in the following effect :-"lo re
turning to the chair I bave to express to
April 28. the House my most grateful acknowledg. A petition, presented by Mr. Wilberments for their indulgent consideration force, from the Academical Sociels in Chanduring my late indisposition. I beg leave cery-lane (10 whom a licence had been to assure the House that I feel most deep refused by two of the City Magistrales, ly the favourable acceptance which my Sir W. Domville, and Mr. Alderman J. J. humble endeavours to discharge my duty Smiti), drew from Mr. Bragge Bathurst in this chair have experi nced from them. the following declaration :--" I am ignoWith respect 10 tle airears of business rant of the motives of the Magistrates ou whic liave been occasioned by the depar. the present occasion.
On thi allegation ture from the ordinary course of proceed of tbe petitioners, it appeared that the ing that arose out of the late unfortunate Magistrates had refused the licence, be. interruprion, I have to propose to the cause they thought it was the iniention of House, first, that all Committees should the Legislature to prohibit all politica! be revived ; and, secondly, to extend the discussion. I must entirely disclaim any time for receiving the reports of Private such intention on the part of the Legisla. Bills, from Monday the 12th of May, to ture: I agree too, that the Magistiates another week (if that shall be the pleasure could only exercise that sort of discretiou of the House), namely, to Monday the which had beeu described by Lord Mans19th of May." --Agreed to.
field, namely, a sound and legal discretion. Mr. Bennet presented a Petition from It might be within the discretion of the the traders, manufacturers, and mechanics Magistrate to delerimine whether or not a of Wolverhampton, praying for a diminu metting were beld for seditivus or literary tion of taxation, and a reduction of the purposes; but it never could be the in. expenditure. It was signed by upwards ievrion of the Legislature to prohibit disof 5.000.
cussion." Mr. E. Littleton said, that the petition The whole House resolved itself into a did not express the seuliments of the inha. Committee, to consider the propriety of a bitants of Wolverbampton.
grant of Exchequer Bills, for the relief of The Chancellor of the Exchequer rose, to the labouring classes of society. call the attention of the House to a motion The Chancellor of the Exchequer then he intended to submit io their considera proceeded to a detail of the measure. tion on Monday: That his Majesty shall The fir:t resolution that he proposed for be authorised to issue Exchequer Bills to the opinion of the Committee was, “That a certain amount, for the relief of the pub. Exchequer Bills, to the amount not exceedlic distress, ou sreurity being given. This ing one million and a half, be advanced was intended for the relief of the labouring to certain Commissioners of Great Bripoor. That the money be allolled partly tain, to be distributed at their discretion to Corporations, to enable ihem to employ towards the relief of the poor's rates, by Jabourers in finishing public works; and the encouragement of industıy, and emin this instance security would be required ployment of the poor in public works of for the repaymen, of the money in a given , utility, and fisheries ; securily for repas. sime. Other parts of the money would ment to be taken from the poor's rates of be given to parishes and associaied bodies, the districts to which such monies might on securities being given on the parish be advanced. Ireland was under circumrates, and also by individuais. It was stances somewhat different from those of not meant, however, that such money was the rest of the Empire, and he should to be employed in what might abstracted. therefore submit a second resolution for Jy be called distress, for the great object his the opinion of ihe Committee, ~ " Toat Majesty's Ministers bad i.. view, was the the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland should finding of employment for the poor, which issue the sum of 250,0001. Irish currency, indeed was the most rasional aod satisfac. fiom the consolidated fund of that country tory way of giving re ief. The suin he (repayable under ceriain securities), for mcant to propose wuuid be between one the employment of the poor, in the en. and two millions, He should oniy furlier couragement of public works and fisheries," add, that he was specially commanded by . Ou every former occasion of an advance bis Royal Highness the friner Regent to made by Government towards alleviaring recommend ibis to the mediale and the distress of any community or di·trici, warmest attention of the lioose.
The advance had been preceded by iQAiver some obat racines by Mosers, quring into the nature and extent of the Lamb, Brongion, and Ponsonby; the Chine disires, prevailing, and of the relief recelor of the Frokenuer iniinated his intende quireito Uniler present circumstacces, tion of contining himself on Monday to unhappily, such proceedings were alloge. making his statement, and io diler calling ther unnecessary; and ibe House was but on the llouse for any opinion will a subie. to sell acquainted with the paiure and quent day.
(Ximni of tie distress prevailing, by the Dumerous petitions that woe lyng on the
table, and by the labours of the Commit. On tbose accounts, a general relief of the tee of last Session and the present. On agricultural distress did not form a part other occasions advances had been made of the present plan, which he thought towards the completion of great public pot likely to have any effect in increasing works, wbich were likely to prove of public the poor-rates. The amount to be grant. benefit; but the present proceeding was ed to any district on the credit of those somewhat diff rent froin any that bad pre raies, was not to exceed half the rate of ceded it; for the Commissioners were not the last year, and no advance was to be only eo'rusted with the distribution of made until that rate doubled the amount mouey they were charged with, and the of the average of the three preceding completion of public works, but they were years. But though he could not promise a also to have under their consideration the general relief to the agricultural interests, effect which the works themselves would at be sbould have been sorry not to have laid this inoinent have on the labouring classes: before the House some measure which their ohjeci, therefore, was of a compli promised considerable assistance to a porcated nature-the utility of the work, and tion of the poorer classes, now deprived of the prospect of benefit to those employed. employment. Undoubtedly the distress There were a variety of public works tial of those classes, and of the manufacturing had received the sanction of Parliament, districts, even froin what they had beard such as harbours, canals, roads, and ihe in the Petition presenied by the Hon.. like, that languished and stagnated from Gentleman opposite, claimed the most the want of capital for their completion ; serious attenti' n of the Legislature, and and applications were frequenily made to every effort that cvuld be made for its Parliament by the promoters of such un alleviation. Thed stresses at Birmingham, dertakings, for contributions out of the in particular, had been mainly occasioned public monev. Whatever aid Parliameut by the change which had terminated the might now afford, was to be submitted to operation of war. The manufaciure of the discretion of Commissioners wholly small arms was peculiarly affected by the unconnected with Government: the sums sudden transition. The manufacturers bad advanced were to be placed with them, made three milliou stand of arms in a and they would receive applications from year. There could, therefore, be no won Corporations, or other Bodies concerned der at the effecis of such a loss of trade as in public works, such as roads, canals, had been occasioned. In looking into the harbours, bridges, and the like: and it accounts, it appeared that the official might be thought advisable that this grant value of exported steel and iron in 1814 was should not be confined merely to under 1,094,0001.; in 1815, it was 1,027,0001. ; takings that had received a Parliainentary and in 1816, 1,074,0001. The exported sanction - he fisheries might also be en hardware in 1816 was 700,0001. odd, couraged, and afford employment to sea amounting to about 10 per cent, short of men who were now destinute of any means 1915. Toe real declension of trade, it of support. At all events, much would be would appear, was not in the regular fo. gained if great works of utility or ornament reign exportitions, but chiefly arose frons could be brought to a completion without the necessary loss of the wanufacture of loss to the publick; of which the example
It was the opinion of many perof former grants, and the interest to be sons conversant with the affairs of Birin. paid under a proper security, afforded a ingham, that a leinpo:ary relief, by the reasonable hope. Iu Ireland, where there advance of 30 or 40,000l. would be prowas not the same facility of lending money ductive of much benefit. He had thought on Government paper, and where great it more advisable to submit a resolucion works were commonly effected at the pub- : couched in general terins, which in glat lic expence alone, it might be deemed. einbrace all cases of real difficulty, with a more advisable to place a sum in the view to guard against error and oversight, hands of ihe Lord Lieutenant, and avoid and to render the application of relief as the difficulties that would attend a selee extensive and benelicial as possible. The sion of Commissioners. With respect to measure, huwever, as to efficacy, must dethe agricultural porsions of the community, pend considerably on details. He pust he had never thought that any assistance add, that he felt it would be presumption of this kind could avail to them. Their in him to think of proposing the measure necessities were far greater than could be at first, under any idra of its being perembraced by any relief of this sort, and fect. fle had only troubled the House their inerests so widely extended, that it with his ideas on the subject, and he was hardly possible to conceive a case in trusted they would in due time meet with which Parliament could afford them as proper consideration and delibera:100.. sistance. Indeed, he fancied that such an He then moved a resolution, that it was advance would ouly have the tifect of in the opinion of the Comınitlee, that Comcreasing their poor-ratis, by making them missioners should be enabled to issue constitute a pait of the wages of labour. 1,500,0001. i Exchequer Lills; under