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had made the difficulty of executing the warrant greater, and which caused the necessity of employing, for that purpose, a force of a different description from that which would otherwise have been sufficient. Those who had to advise the Serjeant on the subject, it appeared, did not know the effect of the warrant! How then was it possible to exculpate them when they had not before considered what was the law upon this point, notwithstanding the ample opportunities afforded them? Were they not bound to suppose, under all the circumstances, that it was possible the person to be apprehended might be found only in his house, from which he could not be taken without an act of force? an act which did at last become necessary, and which, though not greater than the occasion then required, was greater than would have been required, if proper steps had been previously taken.-Persons combining all the characters to which he had adverted ought surely to have known the effect of the warrant. But their ignorance of that effect had, besides other unfortunate consequences, occasioned a doubt of the validity of the warrant. These doubts could not but have generally existed, when it was observed that persons high in the law, and in other departments, did not know how it was to be executed. As to the effect of the warrant, he himself had no doubt whatever. It was not an afterthought. This was a warrant in execution, not in mean process (a term inap. plicable to a parliamentary warrant), issued for an offence which that House declared to have been committed. They were not to go to courts of law for their information. They stood on the law of parliament, which was part of the law of the land, and founded on reason. They were entitled to every assistance that might be requisite to that of sheriffs, magistrates, police officers, not only in Middlesex, but in Surrey, nay to the whole posse comitatus of the whole kingdom, to enforce obedience to a warrant of apprehension, for an act which the House of Commons had pronounced to be a crime. He blamed those whose official duty bound them to protect the public peace, for not being sufficiently informed upon the steps which might become necessary in consequence of a decision which they themselves, as members of parliament, intended to induce the House to adopt. Instead of any Buch vigilance, the House had on its minutes, an account, from which it appeared,

that down to twenty-four hours before the warrant was executed, they did not know whether they were entitled to break open the door! He asked, then, what confidence was to be placed in their industry, their judgment, their knowledge, or their determination? It was for the purpose of making these observations on the conduct of ministers in this transaction, that he rose. He had no personal animosity against any of the gentlemen on the other side, and he trusted there was no part of his conduct which indicated any such feeling. With several of them he had lived for a long time on terms of friendship. But in the discharge of a public duty, these things were to be forgotten. He was bound to declare that he had no doubt of the effect of the warrant, and that the delay in the execution was imputable to the ignorance of the individuals, and not to the defect of the power. He was bound to say, that the privileges of the House were as undisputed as if the warrant had been executed in the manner prescribed by a just view of these privileges, and trusted the ignorance of those who had taken upon themselves to promote a judgment of imprisonment would only affect themselves, and not the rights of the House, which had existed, for the purpose of enabling the House to maintain its station in the constitution, and to protect the liberty of the subject, of which that House was the guardian.

Sir John Anstruther next rose to state, what he conceived to be the duty of the members of that House, merely as such, without looking either to the one side or to the other. He never had any doubt as to the privilege of the House, and the mode in which the warrant ought to have been executed; and he could not but blame the ministers, who had not before-hand made up their minds on that subject. But was he to give up the go vernment of the country altogether be cause it happened to be in the hands of incapable or bad ministers? Those who had marked his conduct through life could not, he thought, imagine that he would, for a moment, entertain the idea of betraying the government in a period of such difficulty, whatever might be his opinion of those by whom it was conducted. Whether the administrators were fit for their duties or not, they still formed the government, and must be supported. Whatever therefore might be his opinion of the ministers, he could not

hesitate about the part he ought to take when the question came to be, whether the country was to have a government or not. Whenever matters came to that pass, it was the highest privilege of a member of parliament to support the government. The constitution was not to be sacrificed for the sake of getting the ministers into a difficulty with a view to turn them out of office. Even if they had an hereditary title to their seats in the cabinet, he would support them in such a crisis, rather than suffer the constitution to be subverted. He had never disguised his opinion, that his Majesty had been advised to place the government in the hands of men unfit to conduct it in times of difficulty and danger. For the ministers, individually, he had a great respect. They had competent talents to a certain extent; but, as a body, they were not the men who ought to have the administration of the government in these times. But though they were not the best qualified for the discharge of these duties, he could not agree to give up the constitution either to the crown or to a mob. As to the letter, under the circumstances in which it had been written, and considering the motives which dictated it, he thought the best way of dealing with it would be to pass it over in silent contempt.

The Chancellor of the Exchequer then rose. After the severe observations which had been made on the conduct of the ministers, he trusted the House would think that he was called upon and bound to advert to this most unjust attack which had been made upon them-an attack not only unjust but most impolitic, even in the view which even the gentlemen themselves entertained of the proceedings which had taken place within the last four days. That they should so far shut their eyes to what had passed as to ascribe the unfortunate effects which had resulted from the delay in the execution of the warrant, to the conduct of ministers, was he maintained as impolitic, upon their own views, as it was unjust to the real merits of the case. They laid to the charge of ministers the hesitation which had been evinced in acting upon a warrant, the execution of which depended not on them, but rested upon the discretion of the proper officer, whose duty it was to have executed it at his peri!! What would have been the opinion of these gentlemen, if, at a time when one of the

sheriffs was proclaiming that the interference of the military was unconstitutional, the ministers had taken the warrant out of the hands of the proper officer, who hesitated, and executed it themselves? If they had done this, and blood had been shed and murder had ensued, before there was any proof that the proper officers had been unable to execute the warrant, and consequently before there was any evidence of the necessity of their interference--what then would have been the. opinion of the gentlemen on the other side -what would have been the just judgment of that House upon such conduct? But, whatever they might say about the imbecility of ministers in the execution of a plain duty, he was conscious that the imputation was not justly cast upon him. He was sensible that no man was fit for the office he had the honour to fill, or any public situation who, seeing the line of his duty clear could be deterred from its execution by any personal consideration. He had at first taken the line which he thought his duty prescribed. He had seen that that had already happened, which the gentlemen opposite only saw approaching. He had seen in the former letter every thing which appeared in that now under consideration he had seen that the object of the writer was to revile the House of Commons, and to bring it, if possible, into universal contempt. He did not blame the hon. gent. (Mr. Curwen) who had thought his proceeding on the former occasion, in the construction he put upon the hon. bart.'s letter, uncandid. He trusted, however, he would now confess, that the event had proved that his former judgment was not uncandid-and he had at last the satisfaction to find that he and the hon. gent. agreed on this point, at least, in principle. trusted, that it would always be the unaltered principle of the government of this country to leave the law to its course, taking care, however, that the public security should not be endangered (hear! hear.) Gentlemen cheered at the expressions" public security." Did any one say, considering the degree of liberty enjoyed by the subjects in this country, that by any preparations that could have been made, disturbances of this kind could at all times be entirely prevented? It was utterly impossible that individual assassination and tumults of this description could be altogether prevented. The utmost that could be done was to be pre

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pared to suppress them before they ar-
rived at an extent dangerous to the pub-
lic security.
He maintained therefore
that there had been no culpable negli-
gence on the part of ministers, but that
they had on the contrary been perfectly
ready to suppress disturbances as soon as
the circumstances called their power into
action.

terior severity was unnecessary, and would be inexpedient. But he thought a middle course would be better suited to the dignity of the House. When such a letter as this was received, he thought the passing it over without notice, upon the ground of contempt, was and would appear very equivocal. Although the House would not suffer itself to be entrapped, yet it For his own part he had never, from would take care not to shrink from its duty. these tumults, entertained any apprehen- Under all the circumstances however he sion about the safety of the government. did not think it necessary to propose any The government was now as safe and as further punishment. The punishment he firm as it had ever been. The ministers had before proposed was for a defiance of had always been ready to suppress the the authority of that House, and the prefirst appearance of violence. He trusted, sent letter was but a continuation of the therefore, that the House would pause be- same defiance and a proof of the same offore it pronounced that the ministers had fence. It was, however, no doubt a great been to blame, for not interfering with the aggravation to repeat it. What he would duties of the proper officer-one not re- therefore submit was, that a resolution moveable at their pleasure, before the should be adopted to the following effect circumstances called upon them to do so. -"That the letter which sir Francis BurIf the question had been put to him, when dett had written to the Speaker, was a high this matter was before under discussion, he aggravation of his offence; but it appearwould have at once stated his opinion, ing, from the report of the serjeant, that that the serjeant would have been justified the warrant for his commitment to the in breaking open the door. But when Tower had been executed, this House did the person whose duty it was to execute not think it necessary to proceed any farthe warrant, hesitated and doubted, whether on the said letter." The considerather he might not be acting illegally, in a case where the most serious consequences might have taken place, was it imbecility in him to tell what his own conduct would have been under similar circumstances, without presuming to controul, or even to advise the officer in the discharge of his duty in such a critical case? The gentlemen on the other side, he contended, had taken a most unjust view of the conduct of ministers. If that conduct had been different, their judgment would have been directly the reverse. They ought to consider that they were giving their opinions under different circumstances from those on which the ministers had to decide. They now gave their judgment as if it had been on a point of science, free from all responsibility. Their argument was, that the ministers had abstained from using a force beyond the law-for if they had controuled an independent officer in the execution of his duty, it would have been an illegal act. What would they have said if ministers had, before the necessity was proved, taken this upon themselves? -Having stated thus much, in answer to the observations that had been made upon the conduct of ministers, he would now come to the letter. He agreed with the gentlemen on the other side, that any ul

tion of that letter might be important at a future opportunity; for instance, if an application should be made for the discharge of the writer. As they were agreed as to the principle, he would, however, readily come into the ideas of the gentlemen opposite, if they could convince him that their mode of proceeding was the best, but he thought the course he proposed to follow, the best-most consistent with the dignity of the House, and at the same time best calculated to avoid those consequences, which the hon. gentlemen opposite, apprehended from any further proceeding.

Mr. Whitbread could not upon principle assent to the right hon. gent.'s motion, who now, he observed, professed to be influenced by considerations of expediency. He was glad to find that the right hon. gent, was at length willing to attend to the dictates of expediency; that he and his friends were disposed to consider consequences; that they were come to their senses, and that they were now of opinion that the sooner the matter could be laid at rest the better. Though he approved the motion of the hon. gent. for an adjournment of the debate to this day six months, he could by no means agree with him in what he had said relative to rallying round his Majesty's government in consequence

of the unfortunate events which had so lately taken place. The sudden change in the hon. gent.'s opinion was rather matter of surprise to him; but he was much more surprised at that, which had taken place in those of the right hon. gent. opposite to him. From the warmth with which the right hon. gent. who had just sat down, and his colleague who sat by him, had expressed themselves on the former occasion, the House might very naturally have been led to suppose that they had done their duty; but he thought quite otherwise, and with the leave of the House he would endeavour to shew that they had most grossly failed in doing their duty. The right hon. gent. had just told the House, that he foresaw all that conduct of sir F. Burdett which had since taken place, from the very first introduction of this business before the House; and yet when the Speaker's warrant came to be issued, he was not, nor were any of his colleagues, prepared with the proper means of carrying it into execution.-Really, he thought, that from the beginning the right hon. gent. ought to have seen reason to apprehend that the execution of the warrant would have been resisted. Sir F. Burdett's declared opinion of the character of the warrant was calculated to excite that apprehension, and yet it appeared that the right hon. gent. was quite unprepared for the event. This formed a serious ground of complaint against him; but there was another and a still stronger ground of complaint.-It would be recollected, that when the hon. baronet actually resisted the warrant, the case was referred to the consideration of the right hon. gent., and his answer was, that he knew not what advice to give, as there was no precedent whatever in which this warrant had been resisted. Now, he put it to the right hon. gent. personally, professionally and officially, whether upon abandoning the law to pursue politics, it did not become his duty to study parliamentary history with somewhat more attention. In point of fact, there was a precedent of the Speaker's warrant having been resisted long before that issued against șir F. Burdett, whose manner of acting he was by no means disposed to justify, and that resistance was accompanied by contempt. But in this precedent how had the House proceeded? why, they voted that the party so resisting was sick. Such was the mode by which the House averted any conflict upon that occasion. But yet, as

to the privileges of the House, he was as ready as any to maintain them, and that the warrant of the Speaker was complete and of all others ought to be omnipotent -that if good for any thing it was good for every thing, and that it authorized the breaking open of doors if necessary in order to enforce its execution. If it were not invested with that authority, what, he, would ask, was to become of the most important functions of that House? How were witnesses to be brought to the bar, as in the recent investigation respecting the duke of York-how was the House to come at various points of information material to the performance of its first duties

in a word, if the Speaker's warrant were not omnipotent, what was to become of the inquisitorial character of that House? It was impossible that the people could be so insensible to their own best interestscould be so besotted as to entertain a wish of wrenching from the House a power so essential to all the good purposes of its institution. Let it be recollected, that although the House of Commons had erred from its duty in many instances, it ought not to be deprived of those privileges which were indispensible to its utility and power, whenever it should become in its constitution and conduct more conformable to the opinion and the interest of the people. That it must become so conformable he could entertain little doubt. Indeed, he would venture to say, that the cause of reform was making rapid progress—that within the last month many, very many converts had been made to that cause. Let it then be asked, in what state the House would be placed in the event of a reform, if stripped of the power under discussion-if the Speaker's warrant were not omnipotent? The crown was known to have a considerable influence in that House and elsewhere; and what must the people expect to be the inclination of that influence in the event of reform. Must they not calculate upon its hostility, and what power could a reformed House of Commons have of counteracting that hostility if its warrant were not effective? Upon this ground therefore most particu larly, he thought the Speaker's rant ought to be omnipotent.-But although he maintained the power of this warrant, it did not follow that he would vindicate an improper application of that power, as in the instance of sir Francis Burdett. At the same time, as it was deemed proper to issue the warrant

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discreet advice of these gentlemen had been taken who voted for the reprimand on a former evening, there could not now exist a doubt.-But while he deplored the indiscretion and imbecility of ministers, and complained of their manner of providing for the execution of the Speaker's warrant, he begged it to be understood, that he meant not to make any apology for the conduct of sir F. Burdett. On the contrary, he thought that the honourable baronet, even upon his own principles, ought not to have persisted in his resistance. After five days opposition he did yield to force, and he might as well have so yielded, for his own view of trying the question within the first five minutes after the warrant was presented to him. He was, therefore, no apologist for the conduct of sir F. Burdett in his protracted resistance. A noble lord had interpreted the hon. baronet's letter to mean a reso-, lution to resist the execution of the warrant. Then it was matter of just and serious complaint that arrangements were not promptly taken to enforce its execution. Why, in fact, was not the warrant exe

against that hon. baronet, why should it be conceived necessary, so long after its issue, to consult the attorney general as to the mode of its execution? One should suppose that an opinion upon this subject should have been previously obtained, and that the city of Westminster should not so long have been suffered to remain in a state of tumult. The right hon. the Chancellor of the Exchequer, and his right hon. friend the secretary of state, took credit, it appeared, for the assistance they offered and the exertions they made upon this occasion. But what said the serjeant at arms? Did he not state at the bar, that he could not get a sight of the secretary of state? and also, that until Monday morning he could not obtain adequate assistance? (No, no, on the ministerial benches). He was in the recollection of the House, and the minutes, when printed, would serve to shew how far he was correct. The right hon. (the Chancellor of the Exchequer) attempted to excuse himself by stating that he had no right to interpose with the execution of the Speaker's warrant, unless specially applied to for aid and where the circum-cuted, as it might have been, by two or stances of the case called for such inter- three constables within an hour or two position. But what did the right hon. after it was signed (hear! hear! on the gent. do when so applied to? why, the ministerial benches)? Gentlemen on the serjeant at arms was referred to the Bow- opposite side meant no doubt, as indeed street officers. He begged the House to they had obviously enough endeavoured, remember the deposition of this officer, to throw the blame upon the serjeant at enfeebled as he was by so many sleepless arms, but in that they could not succeed. nights, and to consider the circumstances The House could never conceive blame of an individual so situated without any fairly imputable to an unlearned man, decisive advice, or adequate aid to in- with a mere military education, for doubt force the warrant with the execution of and ignorance upon a subject with regard which he was entrusted. The right hon. to which the learned lawyer, the first lord gent. claimed credit for not calling in the of the treasury, professed his inability to military prematurely. But why not call decide. Could the House be in the least in the civil power? That, in fact, did not degree surprised at the serjeant's hesitatat all make its appearance until Monday, ing to execute a warrant that he knew in conjunction with the military. He was would be resisted; in the doing which, if happy to hear it admitted by the right a death ensued, he rendered himself liable hon. gent., that the tumult which gave to an indictment for murder? when the rise to this discussion was not the result of learned late attorney general now first any deep laid plan, that there was nothing lord of the treasury, and the other learned more than an ordinary mob which could gentleman near him, who had quitted the be quieted by the ordinary means.-(No, law for political pursuits, as well as the no, on the ministerial benches.) The hon. learned secretary of state, were all so unmember deprecated these unparliamentary prepared as to the law of the subject, that interruptions, and repeated his conception the learned late attorney general, on the of the right hon. gentleman's admission, Saturday evening, advised the serjeant to that there was no apprehension of any take the opinion of the present attorney extended plot or conspiracy in the recent general, which was not given till Sunday disturbance. Such, indeed, was the ge- night; and yet they expected the serneral conviction, and that those disturb-jeant to know more law than all of them ances would never have occurred, if the put together. They might, however throw

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