MAZARINE BIBLE (7th S. iv. 28, 115).-Neither of the two answers to the above query has touched upon the fact that there are two Bibles known under the name of Mazarine. The first and best known is the forty-two-line Bible, printed c. 1455-6 by Schoiffer, called the Mazarine or Mazarin Bible, in accordance with stories which state either that the first copy brought into notice belonged to Cardinal Mazarin, or was discovered in the Maza-mile of where I am sitting, in this most Teutonic rine Library at Paris. The second, and lesser known, is the Bible of forty-five lines, printed before 1466 by Eggestein, which was formerly attributed to Bamler, his name having been found in a copy as illuminator. I would suggest that the attribution of the forty-two-line Bible to Guten-place-names, whether by Celts or by Teutons, was, berg is almost certainly incorrect; it must surely be given to Schoiffer. E. S. D. HIT (7th S. iii. 28, 112, 295, 435).-This form of the neuter pronoun occurs on a fifteenth-century encaustic tile, in the following inscription : Thenke mon thi liffe A. A. LOCH LEVEN (7th S. ii. 446; iii. 30, 113, 177, 295, 458; iv. 131).-MR. GARDINER has formulated the rule that the Celtic race in naming streams and rivers did so by specifying some characteristic in the stream itself; and when examples are produced of streams named from features external to them he says that these are but exceptions to his rule; and he asks me if I can point to any rule, "especially in so liquid a science as geographical etymology," to which exceptions cannot be found. If he will turn to my last note he will see that I told him I could tell him of hundreds of streams in Scotland and Ireland whose names are formed in a manner contrary to his rule. I protest against à priori theories being accepted as rules. If they should be so accepted I am afraid geographical etymology will continue to be a "liquid" science. MR. GARDINER's third paragraph contains the A B C of place-names. "The stream," or an equivalent name, would invariably be the first name of every stream; but in a land of streams a qualitative word would of necessity come to be added. My belief is that it was added by unconscious selection of any prominent feature in, near, or connected with the stream. Where no such feature obviously presented itself, then successive races added as a qualitative to their own word for a stream the word for a stream in the speech of their predecessors, the result being *Successor or executor. such awkward linguistic edifices as Wansbeckwater. May I venture to suggest, in the most delicate GENEALOGICAL AND HISTORICAL SOCIETY OF GREAT BRITAIN (7th S. iv. 68).—This society was started in 1856-57 by a Mr. Rycroft Reeve, who then lived in Brompton Crescent. As I was elected an honorary member of it, perhaps it may seem ungracious on my part to say that it did very little work after the first year or two of its existence, that its "local habitation" has been unknown to me and undiscoverable by me for the last few years, and that I have not withdrawn my name from it only in a vague hope that it will wake up again some day, like a second Rip van Winkle, into a vigorous and useful existence. The hopes with which I joined it thirty years ago have not been realized. At present I could not honestly recommend any friend to join it, even if he could discover its address; and its place seems to me to be fairly well supplied by the Royal Historical Society, which meets in Chandos Street, Cavendish Square, and of which Lord Aberdare is the president. Hyde Park Mansions, N.W. E. WALFORD, M.A. I have a circular, dated May 14, 1858, from Mr. Rycroft Reeve, secretary, wherein it is stated that "a large amount of authentic genealogical and historical matter relating to the early ancestry of fellows of the society has been collated and arranged, and several elaborate pedigrees, commencing in the ninth and eleventh centuries and brought down to Your correspondent Y. S. M. can probably find "RARE" BEN JONSON (7th S. iv. 129).Though the contemporary notices of Ben Jonson and his works have not been examined by me specially for this epithet rare, yet I have read most, if not all, such notices, and can, I think, say with some confidence that we have no knowledge of its being given to him before Sir John Young, of his own motion, caused it to be inscribed on his supposedly temporary tombstone. That I might somewhat rehabilitate my memory, I have, since I read E. H.W.'s query, again run through the 'Jonsonius Virbius,' the commendatory verses, and some other pieces, with the same result. The nearest, from Geo. Chapman on Sejanus, is so far off that it is no instance : And my worke, in it selfe, is deare and Rare. Te doctis juvat auribus, placere As is this, in the first of the 'Jonsonius Virbius I should like to know is what has become of my uncle's MSS., which were in the late doctor's possession, and about which his widow wrote to me at the Reform Club shortly after her husband's death, and asked me to purchase. This was, so far as I can remember, in the year 1881. I replied that if she would allow me to peruse them I should be pleased to do so, provided they would be of service to me in a then contemplated biography of my uncle; but from that day to this I have never heard a word from Mrs. Pearce; even if she be alive or not I am ignorant. If this should meet the eyes of any friend of Mrs. Pearce, or any one who may happen to know of the whereabouts or existence of these MSS., I should feel greatly obliged if he would communicate with me direct, as I still have an idea of leaving a short memoir of that stern unflinching Tory, "who was speaking in 1831 would not be reformed," so prettily described in when William IV. dissolved the Parliament which Miss Harriet Martineau's History of the Thirty Years' Peace.' · EDWARD R. VYVYAN. 231, Elgin Avenue, Maida Vale, W. COMBER FAMILY (7th S. iii. 515; iv. 111).-The following is the entry from the parish register of Westerham, Kent, relative to the baptism of Thomas Comber, Dean of Durham: "1645, Mar. 20, was baptized Thomas, the sonne of James Comber." The family was not one of any note. The name is still common in the district as a surname. G. L. G. THE ARMS OF THE CITY OF LONDON (7th S. iv. 68). The extract from the Harl. MS. given by MR. STOCKEN is due to William Smith, who was Let Digby, Carew, Killigrew, and Maine, created Rouge Dragon Oct. 22, 1597. He was Godolphin, Waller, that inspired brain, a London merchant who travelled abroad, and Or whose rare pen besides deserves the grace. was added to the Heralds' College on the request BR. NICHOLSON. of that society. Though he was opposed to Stow's Dr. Brewer, in 'Phrase and Fable,' art. "Rare theory, he was not an enemy, for "they were well Ben," says, "So Shakespeare called Ben Jonson, acquainted, and communicated their labours to the dramatist." On what occasion the epithet was each other. But for all that, "Stow would not applied is not stated. Shakespeare, in his plays, be persuaded concerning the Dutch blazon of frequently applies the epithet rare to both persons the London arms, but affirmed them to have (Much Ado,' I. i.); "Most rare Pompey "Love's Labour's Lost,' V. ii.). See also Mrs. C. Clarke's 'Concordance,' s. v. Rare." FREDK. RULE. Ashford, Kent. and things; e. g., "Vulcan a rare carpenter" "been always the same" (Strype's "Life of Stow," prefixed to Stow's Survey,' vol. i. p. 15). This notice, with other particulars concerning the question of the origin of the sword or dagger in the City arms, is given in the Chronicles of London Bridge,' second edition, London, 1839, pp. 126-134. SIR RICHARD R. VYVYAN, BART. (5th S. xii. 148, 332, 357).—Happening this morning to require a reference in some back numbers of N. & Q.,' I lighted on these three, which refer to my late uncle, but which, as I was not in England at the time, must have escaped my notice, or I should have certainly replied thereto. The late DR. PEARCE, who writes at the third of these references, says, rightly, ""The Harmony of the Comprehensible World' was never published." But what The extract given by MR. STOCKEN appears in N. & Q.,' 2nd S. x. 88 (wrongly called in the Index vol. ix.), but at greater length. There is also a similar query as to the Church in Antwerp which received no answer. An editorial note in 4th S. v. 490, enters upon the question of the arms, and refers to the 'Liber Custumarum.' There are also other communications in 5th S. xi. 327, 355, 457, but the account in the 'Chronicles of London Bridge' is a much fuller and better one than appears in these replies. ED. MARSHALL. often used in a very wide sense. Business men In Bullein's 'Bul SAGE ON GRAVES (7th S. iii. 229, 353, 417; iv. 116).-The line "Cur moriatur," &c., is taken from the 'Schola Salerni.' warke of Defence,' 1579, fol. 5, verso, I find the following words : CHARLES MACKLIN (7th S. iv. 108).-J. J. S. does not state to what this entry refers, or in what kind of list it occurs. In the Gentleman's Magazine for February, 1755, in the list of bankrupts, given on p. 92, is the following entry: "Charles Macklin, of St. Paul, Cov. Garden, vintner." This was the actor himself, who took leave of the stage on December 20th, 1753, after reciting an epilogue "The incomparable vertue of thys herbe is excellent, written for the occasion by Garrick, he set up a that the great learned fathers of Salern did wryte these tavern and coffee-house under the piazzas of Covent wordes to the late famous Prynce Kyng Henry the eyght, in the lande thereof saying Cur moriatus homo Garden Theatre, where a society called the "British cui saluia crescit in horto! Inquiringe why mortal men Inquisition" met twice a week. The scheme was should dye whych haue sage in their gardens? But bea failure, and Macklin returned to the stage. I cause no herbe hath power to make men immortall they would also remind J. J. S. that Macklin is sup- say furthermore Contra vim mortis not est medicamen in hortis." posed to have been a native of the north of Ireland, and to have taken the name of Macklin Sage will only grow in pure air, so that the line in lieu of Maclaughin or McLaughlin. only means that those who live in pure air will live long. I have been told that some years ago an old woman planted sage on her husband's grave in Eckington Churchyard, Derbyshire. S. O. ADDY. G. F. R. B. HENRY FLOOD (7th S. iv. 108).-Shortly after writing these queries I wrote to the under treasurers of the Inner and Middle Temples in order to clear up the third point. From the Inner Temple I received a courteous reply, informing me that Flood was admitted a member of that Society on January 19th, 1750; while a request for " "the usual fee, viz., 2s. 6d.," prior to making a search, was the reply which I received from the Middle Temple. G. F. R. B. MOTTO OF WATERTON FAMILY (7th S. iii. 452; iv. 18, 92)." Kind or Kynd." Two roses, white and red, are both roses, but they are not the same "kind." Frem, fremd, or fremit, a stranger or "fremit folk" are those one knows foreigner; nothing about. If some of your correspondents would consult an ordinary Scottish dictionary it would save 'N. & Q.' unnecessary queries as to words still in use in the vernacular. C. This motto is evidently a translation of Prov. xxvii. 10, "Melior est vicinus juxta quam frater procul," and this explains this meaning. E. LENTON BLENKINSOPP. SUBURBS AND ENVIRONS (7th S. iii. 516).— Taking the words as I hear them used, I would say environs that part immediately adjoining a city, the innermost circle next to the city itself; suburbs all the district situated in the neighbourhood of a large town. Environs is the lesser term, and, of course, is included in the larger term suburbs. The phrase "a suburban residence" is Sheffield. It is asked who was the author of "Cur moriatur homo cui salvia crescit in horton"? It is line 177 of the 'Schola Salernitana,' the authorship of which is thus described : Normandy) continuance in Italy, or soon after, this poem, "It is the received opinion that during Robert's (of the 'Regimen Sanitatis Salernitanum,' was composed, for Salerno...... This poem, though written in the name of the preservation of his health, by the Physicians of the whole School of Salerno, is usually attributed to John de Milano. His name is affixed to it in many MSS., one as old as 1418......Who he was, where he lived, or what share he had in the poem, are equally unknown." See Muratori, 'Ant. Ital.,' vol. iii. dissert. xliv. Sanitatis Salernitanum,' by Sir Alex. Croke, Ox., col. 935, and other authorities, in 'Regimen 1830, pp. 23, 27, 28, 110. ED. MARSHALL. "ALL WISE MEN ARE OF THE SAME RELIGION (6th S. iii. 406, 472; 7th S. iii. 440, 468, 521).— The following version of this anecdote is given by Mr. J. A. Froude at p. 142 of his 'Short Studies on Great Subjects,' without, however, any acknowledgment of its origin : "Of what religion are you, Mr. Rogers?' said a lady once. 'What religion, madam? I am of the religion of all sensible men.' And what is that?' she asked. 'All sensible men, madam, keep that to themselves.' H. C. FIVE-GUINEA PIECE DESIGNED BY WYON, R.A. (7th S. iv. 108).—Mr. Kenyon, in his 'Gold Coins of England' (1884), p. 204, says that "two patterns for five-pound pieces were produced...... having Una and the lion on the reverse, in reference, it is presumed, to the government of the British nation by a queen; but no such coins have ever been issued to the public." It is stated in 'The Value of British Coins' that Wyon's pattern five-pound piece is worth 77. 10s. G. F. R. B. BLUE PETER (7th S. iii. 477; iv. 116).-Is there not more to be said about "Blue Peter" than to copy from 'Phrase and Fable'? The flag is, I believe, the same in the French service as in ours, and, as a flag of departure, has the same meaning, I think. It is a flag of blue ground, with a white square in the centre, and is called bannière, or bannière de partance. It is hung out at the poop. It is not called le pavillon de partir, but la bannière de partance; and from partance you could not get Peter. So that proof is required to show that the expression partir was ever in use, from which Peter might be corruptly derived. I believe it to be apocryphal utterly a fancy guess, prettily human and ingenious, but quite without foundation. Is it not rather that in the English navy there are "repeat signals," of which this "Blue Peter" is one, and very commonly recurrent, so that the corruption is rather an abbreviation of the blue repeater than from any French word partir? In naval actions there are frigates set apart to repeat signals, and such vessels are called repeaters; French, répétiteurs. It is rather remarkable how many marine terms we have in common with the French, and how many of these seem to have been borrowed by us from the French. We think the French poor seamen, but this fact alone warns us towards modesty. HATTERS (7th S. iii. 497; iv. 94, 156). The hat trade of this country was very extensively developed by the French emigrants who flocked hither in the seventeenth century. MR. BULLEN will find many interesting particulars regarding the hats manufactured by them in the following works: Smiles's 'Huguenots in England and Ireland' (1867), pp. 323, 460; Weiss's History of the French Protestant Refugees' (1854), pp. 259-60; 'History of the Trade in England' (London, 1702); and 'The Danger of the Church and Kingdom from Foreigners Considered' (London, 1721). The author of this last work, as quoted by Dr. Smiles, very naïvely remarks, “Spaniards and Dutchmen instructed us how to make Spanish felts, and the French taught us not only how to perfect the mystery of making hats, but also how to take them off" (p. 460). ROBERT F. GARDINER. HENRY WARBURTON, M.P. FOR BRIDPORT (7th S. iii. 498).-Some account of this gentleman, who was M.P. for Kendal 1843-47, will be found in moreland M.P.s, at p. 450. Mr. R. S. Ferguson's 'Cumberland and WestQ. V. BROMFLAT: LOWTHER (7th S. iii. 429 ; iv. 77).— HERMENTRUDE states, by way of correction to ADA, that "there never was an Earl of Holland in England," whereas Henry Rich, second son of Robert, Earl of Warwick, was created Earl of Holland in 1624. On his death in 1649 he was succeeded by his son Robert, who also succeeded to the earldom of Warwick in 1673, and for three succeeding generations both earldoms remained in the Rich family. The last Earl of Warwick and of Holland died s.p. in 1759. EDW. B. DE FONBLANQUE. LINES FROM DANTE (7th S. iv. 148).-I did not read Lord Granville's speech at Dover on the Jubilee, neither did I see the morning paper containing Dante's lines, to which the REV. J. PICKFORD says his lordship made allusion. The lines, however, can be no other than these :— Come i Roman, per l'esercito molto, L'anno del Giubbileo, su per lo ponte Hanno a passar la gente modo tolto; Che dall' un lato tutti hanno la fronte Verso il castello, e vanno a Santo Pietro; Dall' altra sponda vanno verso il monte. They will be found in the 18th canto of the bolge,' seeing the crowds in the first bolgia meet'Inferno,' from verse 28 to 33. Dante, in 'Maleing, and passing each other in double columns the crowds assembled in Rome at the time of the divided by a line of separation, compares them to Jubilee ordained by Poniface VIII., on which the centre of the Ponte Sant' Angelo to separate occasion the Pope caused a barrier to be placed in those going to St. Peter's from those returning from it. Balbo, in his 'Life of Dante,' says that towards the end of the thirteenth century a rumour spread among Christians that it was an ancient custom of the Holy See of Rome to grant to all such a plenary indulgence every hundredth year. In consequence of this report, people flocked in crowds to Rome, the great centre of Christianity; and Pope Boniface, yielding to the rumour (if he had not himself originated it), proclaimed that plenary indulgence in the year A.D. 1300 would be granted to all Romans who for thirty days, and to all foreigners who for fifteen days, should attend the churches of St. Peter and St. Paul. The number of persons gathered in Rome for this purpose being so immense, it was necessary to take the precaution before named, to prevent crushing on the bridge leading to and from St. Peter's. The treasures and offerings brought by Eleanor, called from her extreme beauty the "Pearl of Brittany," was confined in Bristol Castle by her uncle King John. She was, of course, natural heir to the throne after the death of her young brother Prince Arthur. Year by year-that the people might be assured of her safety-she was brought out and exhibited; and year by year it was marked that the golden hue of her hair was changing, till at last she was an elderly grey-haired woman. She certainly never married, and her sad and eventless life closed during the reign of her cousin Henry III.—a victim, like so many royal ladies, to the jealous fears of the reigning sovereign. As I am at From 'Inferno,' canto xviii. In Longfellow's present away from my books I am unable to version it is : Even as the Romans, for the mighty host, The year of Jubilee upon the bridge Have chosen a mode to pass the people over; Their faces have, and go unto St. Peter's; Which flocks the year of Jubilee to Rome, The Castle, to St. Peter's as they throng,All on the other journey to the Mount. Wright explains in a note : "In the year 1300 Pope Boniface VIII. established the Jubilee for the sale of indulgences. So great was the concourse of pilgrims to Rome to purchase them, that in order to enable the crowds to pass and repass the bridge of St. Angelo with greater ease, it was divided lengthwise by a partition, so that on one side all had be. fore them the Castle of Adrian, on the other Mount Aventine." ED. MARSHALL. [MR. JONATHAN BOUCHIER supplies a prose translation, and other correspondents refer to the passage.] ELEANOR OF BRETAGNE (7th S. iv. 149).-Where the "Pearl of Bretagne" was born no record informs us; but it was in 1184, so she was three years older than her brother. By John, and afterwards Henry III., she was detained in honourable captivity, not more rigorous than the seclusion of the king's sisters, except that her movements were restricted and she was never allowed to marry. In 1230 robes are provided for her and her two damsels; she is allowed money for her alms and linen for her "works"; the manor of Swaffham is granted to her; and venison is supplied from the royal forests. Visitors are allowed under careful supervision. In 1236 she was in Gloucester Castle; but in 1241 she had been removed to Bristol, where she was slowly starved to death, 1001. being paid to John FitzGeoffrey, constable of Bristol Castle, on March 15, "ad executionem Alienora consanguinem Domini Regis facienda" (Rot. Exit., Michs., 25-6 Hen, III.). HERMENTRUDE. give dates, but these Miss Strickland would St. Saviour's, Southwark. Sandford, in his 'Genealogical History of the High Street, Portsmouth. He It would appear that Eleanor Plantagenet, heiress of Brittany, Guienne, and Anjou, died a nun at Amesbury 1235. This was in 19, 20 King Henry III., who was her first cousin, not uncle. A. H. BARONESS BELLASIS OF OSGODBY, LINCOLNSHIRE (6th S. xi. 188; 7th S. iii. 418, 477; iv. 17, 94).-The following is the notice in the Genealo gist, p. 305 (' New Peerage,' by G. E. C.):— She m., "Belasyse of Osgodby -Dame Susan Belasyse, widow He |