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in notone single instance have we curtailed,siderable expence, one of these factories, or been desired to curtail, the articles and had partially, or not at all, supplied it which have been sent out for the use and with labourers, would not in this case call comfort of the negroes, although, in almost aloud for compensation ? and could that every instance, we have done so in respect compensation be justly denied to him ? And to those for the use of the whites.-yet, sir, the silk and cotton factor has not --There is not yet, sir, any distinct under greater legislative authority to plead than standing whether this bill is or is not to be has the West-India planter for his establishe accompanied with a provision of compen- ment; nor is the supposed caso which I sation for those whom its operation may have put of the former harder than the real injure; and, unless some pledge to that ef- one of the latter, after this bill passes; Tect be given, I must consider that the in-and, independently of the general case, justice it may inflict upon individuals is a there are individual cases of peculiar hardfair argument against its principle. The ship, those of minors, of lessors, and of noble lord (Howick) has stated, that it proprietors of estates under trust, whose has not been usual for parliament on simi- estates, immediately after this bill passes, lar occasions to provide compensation will be either considerably depreciated, or prospectively; and yet, sir, in those recent of no value at all. There are some, sir, instances in which the legislature judged it who will admit the truth of many of the fit to interfere merely with ancient usages considerations I have urged: they will ad(not with rights established under acts of mit that we are about to make a sacrifice parliament) for the sake of effecting im- that is to cost is much, and to profit others provements in the port of London; 1 little or nothing. “But,” say they, “ there mean in the West-India and London dock is connected with the slave trade much acts-a provision of prospective compensa- abuse and much inhumanity, and, at all tion, most liberal in its extent, is made for events, we will wash our hands of any sbare every description of persons to whose loss in it; we will have notbing to do with or injury those bills might operate. This, that which is either the offspring or the pasir, is what we have done ; and let me state rent of vice.” Gentlemen should consider, a case which may happen, nay, which pro- sir, how far they would follow this prilie bably will happen, if the spirit of reform befciple, and whither it would lead them: it consistent. There are, sir, in this country, would certainly go the length of supe and more especially in the northern coun- pressing the licensing of alehouses, and the ties, many large factories built, where 3 or continuance of lotteries: can the mischiefs 400 persons are often confined together em- with which these are connected in society ployed in the spinning of cotton and silk : be doubted? Il, sir, I were inclined to atI am prepared to say, sir, and there are tempt the feelings of gentlemen in thi many in this house who can confirm it, house with a pathetic story, I could that those establishments, although highly shew them, and at no great distance advantageous in a commercial view, are from the metropolis, an industrious mother fital both to the health and to the morals with 6 or & children, their countenances of bis majesty's subjects: now, supposing pale, their limbs emaciated, and their bothat the philanthropic spirit were to be ex- dies swoln with fainine, picking up a scana tended to them, and their further exten- ty and insufficient subsistence by the only slon at least forbidden; supposing we were labour which such feeble hands can execute,

“ We pretend not to interfere with while the father of this family, be who what exists already; keep the labourers you ought to support them, is taking what is Have got, we will not emancipate them, called a plunge at the neighbouring alethey are not fit for emancipation, they are house, spending the fruits of one week's crrupted and disordered, and incapable of labour, and mortgaging that of another; Hie regular duties of life ; but not one and this after having carried away the lea. wore ruddy-cheeked boy or blooming girl thern bag from the cottage roof, which conshull you seduce from their ignorant and tained the pence and sixpences, the hard (cluded parents, and immure in your putrid savings of the year (saved to pay the rent haunts of vice and disease. Tell us not at Lady-day), and having sunk the whole of o your ventilators and your artificial gasses; it with one of those itinerant propagators we thing is contrary to first principles, and of ruin who now invade the privacy of your it must be discontinued." Now, can we remotest villages with a cart stuck over with believe that he who had just built, at a con- lottery bills. This, sir, is not a fictitious nor

to say,

an uncommon case, and yet our philanthro-considered the lottery a very bad mode of pists do not make it the theme of declama-raising money, and would concur in any tion or the object of reform. This is too measure for putting an end to it, if there near and too obvious for them; their aim were any prospect of success in the ato is more distant, their scope is larger ; the tempt; but he was sorry to see gentlemen spirit of modern reform does not act, sir, reduced to arguments of this sort. They like the rational principle of self-love so searched out every recess of misery and beautifully described by the poet, which vice in their own country, they looked first puts the centre in motion, and then ex- around them 'every where for evils, and tends itself in progressive circles of bene- hugged them all to their bosoms. With ficence to the extremities; the spirit of regard to the complaints that had been modern reform attacks at ouce the con- made of his conduct towards the West-lanecting chain of the systems, and, if the dia plauters, he bad always been as just whole do not fall to pieces at its touch, it towards those gentlemen as he could. He works inwards till it shakes the centre. had never behaved to them with any harshI must, for the reasons I have given,ness, but he could never carty complaisance vote against the second reading of the so far towards them, or ai ý set of men bill.

alive, ms to compliment away the rights Mr. IVilberforce replied to the principal and happiness of millions of human beings. arguments which had been urged against The hon. gent. pronounced an eulogium the bill. He observed, that ever since he upon the display of character and talent had engaged in this discussion, he had al- which the house had that night witnessed ways endeavoured to avoid any expres on the side of humanity and justice, partision wbich might be considered unjustly cularly on the part of the younger mem. injurious towards those who opposed him. bers; whose lofty and liberal sentiments But it was not to be expected that the recommended and enforced by the elevad friends of the abolition were to overlook tion of their rank, and the purity of their the general effect of human passions. forin, must tend to produce the happiest efDespotic power could not be possessed fects upon all classes of the community. without much abuse in the exercise of it. Such an indication of mind and feeling All that he imputed to the West-India must afford gratification to any reflecting planters was, that they had yielded to the man, and diffuse the most salutary lessons circumstances under which they existed. throughout the country; must shew to the The children in the islands were accus- people, that their legislators, and especially tonied to see an order of beings around the higier order of their youth, were forthem which they were taught to consider ward to assert the rights of the weak against as inferior. Thus their prejudices were the strong; to vindicate the cause of the formed. It was not them, therefore, that oppressed ; and that where a practice was be blamed, but those who, though not found to prevail, incousistent with humaplaced in a situation to be misled on the nity and justice, no consideration of profit subject of this trallic, and who bad the could reconcile them to its continuance. opportunity of seeing its horrors in their The generous and humane principles which true colours, who possessed the power of bad been that day unfolded, were worthy putting an end to the evil, and yet had of a British parliament to teach, and of a suffered it to exist. Ile referred to Mr. British people to learn. Parke's book, tu shew the evils which the Sir John Doyle, in explanation, stated, slave trade created in Africa. It had been that the instances of oppression and crus contended that Mr. Malthus, in bis Essay elty wbich he had cited, had taken place on Population, had favoured the slave in Carolina, when ander tbe government trade ; the fact, however, was not so. of this country. Indeed, Mr. Malthus had called

upon

him Mr. Manning was convinced that the that day, and expressed his surprise to abolition of the African slave trade would have learned, that in some publications of not be attended with the injury apprehends the day he was regarded as a favourer ofed to the West-India planters. The nethe slave trade; and stated that he had gro population of our colonies would, he written an appendix to his work, to remove was sure, be kept up without it. He had no that impression. It was said, why not put estate in the British colonies. But in the an end to the lottery, and other evils in Danish island of Santa Cruz he had an this country! He acknowledged that he estate ; and there his Danish trajesty, by Vol. VIII.

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an edict in 1783, put an end to the impor. British property was at stake, the security tation of slaves, after the lapse of ten of which depended on passing the bill with years; and ever since then the negro promptitude; for if any of the valuable population required no aid from African Ships that had been freighted to Buendis importation.

Ayres should chance to be lost before the Mr. Hiley Addington could only be in- bill should be so passed, the underwriters duced to assent to the measure upon one would not be responsible. The bill had principle, namely that of the modification been brought in with the consent of the proposed to be introduced in the commit-company; for when it was first discovered tee by his right hon. relation (Mr. Bao that the voyages to South America were thursi), for postponing to a more distant pe- illegal, his majesty's ministers had thought riod the final abolition, and for a gradual it their duty to bring in a bill in order to progress in the measure.

render them legal. In December last, a Earl Percy suggested, that a principle draft of the bill was sent to the directors of which he should wish to introduce into the South Gea company for their opinion, the bill, towards the final emancipation of and iu January a committee of the directhe negroes, would be to declare every ne-| tors attended the privy council, when a gro child free, who shall be born in his discussion of the principle of the bill took majesty's dominions after the 1st of Janu- place. Several alterations suggested by ary, 1810.--The question was now loud- the directors were agreed to by the priry ly called for, and the house divided. council, and the directors then signified Ayes 283, noes 16, majority 267. The their approbation of the bill, of which the house then resolved itself into a com- bill then before the bouse was a copy, word mittee pro furmd, and at half-past four for word, with the exception of those adjourned.

changes of expression which the recapture of Buenos Ayres required. If any claim

could bereafter be made out for compensa. Tuesday, February 24

tion, the justice of the house would induce [MINUTES.] The following is a list of them to listen to such claim with the atthe committee appointed to take into cou-tention which its herits demanded.-On sideration the petition complaining of an the other hand, it was maintained by Mr. undue returu for the county of Mayo: J.Cripps, sir T. 'Furton, and Mr. II. ThoroWoolmore, A. H. Holdsworth, W. E. ton, that the petitioners ought to be heard Lockhart, hon.G. Elliott, hub. C. II. But. by counsel, and that the petition could ler, hon. 'T. C. Onslow, P. C. Bruce, C. not throw any obstacle in the way of the Leigh, J. D. Porcher, G. Skene, T. D. plans of government, or the commerce of Drake, lord R. S. Fitzgerald, T. Tyru biti; the country. The directors of the South nominees, hoii. J. Butler, hon. T. Knox. Sea company bad a great duty to fulfil, --On the motion of lord Temple, the They were ilie guardians of the property house resolved itself into a committee of the holders of their stock to the amount on the South Sea Trade bill. Counsel of above 26,000,0001. The statement being declared to be in attendauce ou tlie inade on a late evening, that for 65 years part of the South Sea company, Mr. Cripps the company had allowed their right to lie moved that they be called in. This pro- fiorinant, was untrue: for during the whole duced a long discussion. On the one of that period they had been in the habit hand, it was contended by lord Temple, of granting licences, although it was allowMr. Jacobs, Mr. Corry, Mr. Courtenay, (ed that those licences were not of much and Mr. C. Wynne, that no case had been value. The right wbich their charter conmade out to prove the necessity of the ferred upon them was valuable and transdelay, which the hearing of coursel must ferable, and were it offered to the ports occasion. The petition froin the South Sea of London or Liverpool, might doubtless company did not state, that they sustained be exchanged for a large consideration. any injury from the bill. Without a clear During the last week the directors bad reproof of injury could be shewn, they were ceived numerous letters from proprietors, not entitled to be heard by counsel. Their in different parts of the country, urging charter had been granted to them with this them, should Buenos Ayres again fall into express limitation, that they should trade the hands of the English, to avail tbemto ibe possessions of the king of Spain alone, selves of their privileges. With regard to as was demonstrated by the exceptions in remuneration tor the loss of these privi that charter. One million and a half of leges, a very moderate one was desired. The duly on goods exported to and im-s" To the honourable the commons of ported from Buenos Ayres was 12į per the united kingdom of Great Britain cent. . This duty might easily bear the ad- and Ireland in Parliament assembled : dition of an eight per cent, which would The humble Petition of James Paull, afford the small remuneration required. esq. one of the candidates to represent The motion for hearing counsel was then the city of Westminster at the last elecnegatived without a division. The blanks tion for members of Parliament to serve in the bill were filled up, and ide report

for the said city, was ordered to be received oa 'Thursday. “ Shewerb, That at the said election the

right hon. R. B. Sheridan was returned a HOUSE OF COMvoxs.

member to serve in parliament for the said Thursday, February 26. city. That your petitioner presented a pe(Minutes.] This day a ballot tooktion to this hon, house, against the return place for a committee to try and determine of the said R. E. Sheridan, charging him, the merits of the petition complaining of among other things, with having procured an undue election for Malmsbury, and the the same by means of undue and illegal following members were chosen : R. Fer-influence, by threats and menaces, and by guson, lord Mahon, James Dawkins, T. divers acts of bribery and corruption. That P. Symmonds, W. Wingfield, M. P. An the said. petition was appointed to be tadrews, S. Boddington, R. Morris, H. Swaun, ken into consideration on the 24th of this W. Jacob, viscount Newark, J. Buller, T. instant month of February. That this hoStanley ; nominees, viscount Marsham, H. nourable house thought fit, at the instance Joddrell, esq.-Sir E. Knatchbull stated, of the said R. B. Sheridan, to postpone that some circumstances had occurred which the consideration of the said petition until had induced him to abandon the notice he the 14th of April now next ensuing. That had given for that day, relative to the con- your petitioner bas lately discovered that duct of a certain wiluess before the Sand- the said R, B. Sheridan, in defiance of the wich road committee. The hon. baronet standing orders of this house, and to the matook occasion to disclaim any other mo- nifestsubversion ofevery principle of justice, tive in the proceeding than that of a de- bas, by divers nefarious ways and ineans, sire to maintain the digoity and character tampered with and endeavoured to corrupt, of that house. At the saine time that he and has attenipted to persuade and to demade this statement, he could not suppose ter and hinder, certain persons whom your that any meinber would be inclined to sus- petitioner intended and still intends to expect bim of being actuated by any other ainine, and who are and will be material view,

witnesses upon the trial of the said peti[MR. Paull's PETITION RESPECTING tion, from appearing on the day when the THE WESTMINSTER ELEction.] Lord said petition shall be heard, and from giFolkestone called the particular attention of ving their unbiassed, or any, testimony on the house to a peu lion which he held in behalf of your petitioner, and against the his hand from James Paull, esq. the peti said R. B. Sheridan.-That one Wm. Drake tioning candidate for Westminster. 'The was and still is a material witness sumnoble lord stated, that the petitioner com- moned on behalf of your petitioner, and plained of a breach of the standing order that the said W. Drake having, on or of that house which regarded witnesses, about the 10th of this instant February, inand requested that it might be read. formed the said R. B. Sheridan that he had It declares, “ 'That if it shall appear that any ) been so summoned, and having enquired of

person hath been tamperiug with any wit- him the course he was to pursue, the said

ness, in respect of his evidence to be given R. B. Sheridau told him to leave that bu" to this house, or any committee thereof, or siness to him, that he would procure biin * directly or indirectly hath endeavoured a situation abroad, and he would also pro“ to deter or hinder any person from ap- vide for the father of the said W. Drake, “ pearing, or giving evidence, the same is and added, that the said W. Drake might " declared to be a high crime and misde- bave any money he pleased, and wished the “ meanour; and this house will proceed said W. Drake to keep out of the way, and “ with the utmost severity against such of- endeavoured to persuade the said W.Drake “ fender.”—The noble lord then presented not to give, and to intimidate, and deter, the following Petition, wbich was read by and hiuder him from giving, complete and the clerk at the table :

unbiassed testimony before the select com

nittee of the facts known to him relative and partisans, aforesaid, with divers others, o the said election, and did offer to give have conspired togetber, ip manner alorenoney 10 the said W. Drake for him to sail, and in divers other ways, for the purprocure for the said R. B. Sheridan

a pose of depriving your petitioner of his just certain letter, in the possession of one right, and preventing him from establishing Emanuel Harris, and which letter the said by his witnesses before a committee of E. Harris had been required by an order of your honourable house, bis claim to reprethe right hon. the speaker to produce be sent the said city of Westminster. All fore the said committee; and that the said which transactions of the said R. B. She-' R. B. Sheridan did also, on or about Thurs- ridan, his agents, avd partisans, are to the day, the 19th of Feb, instant, again ofrer great injury of your petitioner, in the mathe said W. Drake money, and a situation nitest violation of the standing orders of of profit, with the same view, and did this hon, house, in defiance of justice, in likewise on the last mentioned day, endea breach of the law, and to the utter devour to persuade one Tho. Weatherhead, struction of equal trial. Your petitioner not to give an unbiassed testimony on the therefore prays that he may be permitted trial of the said petition. And that one to prove the facts above stated, at the bar Alex. Johuston, one Frederick Homan, one of this bon. house, that be may be beard Edwards, and divers others the agents and by his counsel at the bar, and that this partisans of the said R. B. Sherilai), did hou, house will take his witnesses under also tamper with the said W. Drake, and its protection, and give such relief as in endeavour to persuade and to deler, and justice shall to this hon. house seem fit. to hinder him from giving unbiassed testi- And your petitioner shall ever pray, &c.” mony before the said comniittee; and the -Upon the motion that the petition should said A. Johnston and F. Homan did also lie on the table, endeavour to persuade and induce the said Mr. Sheridan rose to ask the noble lord, W. Drake to procure the aluresaid letter whether it was his intention to follow up from the said E. Harris.-That ihe said R. this petition by any grave proceeding, be. B. Sheridan, hy one Henry Burgess, one cause, if so, he would reserve what he had James Wallace, and one Jobu Gallant, avd to state upon this subject, until such prodivers obers his agents and partisans, did ceeding should be proposed? also tanıper with divers other witnesses Lord Folkestone replied, that he meant summoned by your petitioner to give testi- the next day to ground a motion upon this mony on his behalf; and in particular that petition, of which he took that opportunity the said James Wallace and John Gallant to give notice.--- The petition was then didinform one Wm.Sperring, cnel'm. War- ordered to lie on the table. ren, one Jeremiah James, one Johu Pula Mr. Wilberforce reminded the noble leu, one Daniel Richardson, one John Ba-lord, that a question of considerable inlain, and one Christ. Rich rdson, whom portance stood for the next day. he knew had been so summoned, that it The Speaker observed, that as the motion was intended to move this bon. house to of the noble lord referred to a breach postpone the consideration of the said pe- of privilege, it naturally took precedency tition until a future day, by which means of every other question. the orders to attend the said committee, Lord Howick concurred with the opi. with which they had been servesd, would be nion the house bad just heard from zbe invalid and of no use; and that if it were chair, that it had always been usual to postponed but for ope day, there would be proceed to the consideration of any charte tinie for them all to get out of the way to connected with a breach of privilege with avoid their being served a second time ; all convenient expedition. Indeed, the and added, that when they bad succeeded prompt investigation of sucb an important in putting it off, caci person should have point was so desirable, that he sbould wish it pioney to go out of the way to prevent his to be gone into that night. If the noble lord being summoned ; and your petitioner has were inclined to proceed, be could not supbeen informed and verily believes that the pose that there existed on any side of the said W. Sperring, D. Richardson, and W. house the slightest indisposition to hear him. Warren are now out of the way, and have Lord Folkestone, after all that he had been persuaded and induced so to do by heard of the doctrine of notices, was not We means aforesaid. That the said R. B. prepared to expect that the house would Sheridan), and the several persons, agents, be willing to entertain a question of this

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