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grossly insulted him ; that Mr. S. had af- when he asked him to get the letter from terwards sent several people to him with a Harris, that he should not want any money, view to bias him; that he had been sent as Mr. S. and he were old acquaintances; for by Mr. Sheridan in February last to the and he had reason to believe that this inobouse of Mr. Honian, where he had drank ney was offered him to induce him to several bottles of wine; that he had a pri- procure the letter from Harris. Witvate conversation with Mr. S. in a room in ness being further examined, would not the house of a Mr. Edwards, where Mr. S. say that Mr. S. authorized him to otfer bad offered him money to procure for him any specific sum to Harris to get back the a letter which Mr. S. had sent to E. Har-| letter, or that he even ever mentioned ris, a Jew; that Mr. S. had ollered to pro- the word money, but insinuated in ge. vide for him and his father, and told him neral, that every possible means should be to keep out of the way, and offered bin used to get it back, observing, that the money, and said that he would settle the getting back the letter was of the most inatter about the suinmons; that he had serious and important consideration. He several communications with Mr. S. on had, however, offered 301. to Harris, to' the subject of the letter; that no one ex-prevail upon him to return the letter, cept himself was present at the writing which money he would pay out of his own and signing of that letter by Mr. S.; that pocket, and of his own authority. He he had informed Mr. S. that E. Harris had got acquainted with Mr. Pauli, by could procure 6 or 8 votes, but would not means of a letter he had written to him, do it except he signed the letter. The siating the ill-treatment he lrad received letter had been signed by Mr. Sheridan in from Mr. S. and his servants; but Mr. his own house, 3 or 4 days after the com- Paull bad not instigated bim by money or mencement of the election, but not in pre- any other inticement to get possession of Bence of any person but the witness. The the letter, but merely advised him to tell letter had been signed between 11 and 1 what he knew, but to advance nothing that o'clock in the day, but he could not ex- he would not be ready to swear to.
Woen actly say on what day of the month. he got possession of the letter, he never He had delivered no other letter, either mentioned the circumstance to Mr. Paull during or since the election, to E. Harris or to any of his agents, nor, indeed, to any from Mr. S., but had delivered one to him person whatever, before he mentioned it previous to the election, which had been ihis night at the bar of the house. Yet, sigued also by Mr. S. E. Harris had of- upon cross-examination upon this point, fered bim a sum of money to procure a be confessed, that he himself had voi only letter for him from sir P. Parker, or sir seen the petition that had been presented S. Hood. In the interview he had with to, the house, but that he had dictated a Mr. S. at Mr. Edwards's, Mr. S. told him part of it to Mr. Powell, more particularly that he had acted improperly, in having ihat part which referred to the letter, and gone out of town during the election, this he had done a few days before the pethough he had coustantly attended, and lition was presented. Mr. Paull certainly sent in the names of the voters he brought expressed a wish that the letter might be up every morning. When he asked Mr. got and produced before the cominittee, 8. what he was to do with respect to the but he never promised money, or any suinmons he had received to attend the kind of reward for that service. He als committee, Mr. S. desired him to get out lowed, however, that his intention was of the way, and to leave the rest to hin. when he got hold of the letter, to use it Mr. S. said, he would provide for him, as against Nir. S. lle never heard that any they were old friends, by getting him a suspicion existed that the letter was a forsituation under government, which he liad gery; but he destroyed it himself, because been promised many years. Mr. Johnson he did not conceive it to be of any use. had also asked him to get the letter from He got a second letter from Mr. S. during Harris, and he had replied to Mr. Johnson, the election after the first had been dethat if Harris did not give it up," by G-stroyed; did not know the date of it; he'd knock him down." Mr. Homan, also had seen Mr. S. sign it in one of the rooms of Frith-street, bad said to him that he was at the Shakspeare taverń ; uben cross-tswrong in writing to Harris, and that it amined, he said, that the letter was signed would be a good thing to get ihe letter, if in Mr. S.'s drawing-room, while he bumpossible, from him. Nr. S. had told him, self was in another apartment, and there->
sore did not see him actually write his feelings from calling the attention of the name upon it; but verily believed that it house to the gross, insolent, and outrawas Mr. S.'s hand-writing ;-made different geous proceeding. He thought the house anwers, at different times, respecting his was called upon to adopt some measure, means of procuring money ; had ball-pay in vindication of its own dignity; and reas a lieutenant in the navy, and several comniended that the petitioner should be pensions from the king, and also one from brought to the bar, and acquainted by Ibe the Patriotic Fund, yet was never confirmed Speaker with the sense entertaived by the a lieutenant in the navy; never had been house of the impropriety of his conduct. examined at Grenwich, nor had ever pre- Lord A. Hamilton urged in mitigation, sented any memorial to obtain bis pen- not in justification of the petitioner, the feelsions.
ings that must have been excited by the During the examination of the witness, statenent made by the hon. member under frequent questions were started, and dis- the gallery. cussions naturally arose as to the propriety Mr. Whitbread had never had his eye off of the course of examination adopted by that part of the house since the commence the learned counsel. The witness and ment of this investigation, and assured the counsel were of course ordered to with-house that Mr. Paull had never gone out. draw, and await the decision of the house Mr. Baker submitted whether it woold on such points.
not be better that the bouse should General Phipps observed, that when not have any direct communication with counsel and witnesses were ordered to him, but that whatever was to be done on withdraw from the bar, it was not to be al- the occasion should be done through the lowed that a petitioner should take the serjeant at arins.-The motion of lord advantage of an indulgence which the Howick was then agreed to, and the pee house granted in such case, not to insist on titioner and his counsel having been the witness withdrawing more than a foot called in, or two below the bar, instead of outside of The Speaker addressed him in the folthe door; it should not be permitted that lowing terms: “ Mr. Paull, I am directed a petitioner should lay bold of such an op- by the house to acquaint you, that, in its portunity for conversing with the witness, judgement, you have been guilty of great or making observations on whatever might impropriety of conduct, and committed a fall from any hon. member of that house. gross outrage upon the privileges of the
Mr. Paull, from below the bar, lamented house. I am also directed to acquaint that he had not an opportunity of fairly you, that you having inade your election to answering what was said in ibat house be heard by your counsel, are no longer with reference to bimself. But when he entitled, according to the practice of this heard an observation so gross as that house, to be heard by yourself. I am also which had been made by the hon. ge-again directed to inform the counsel that neral-Here the petitioner was pre- they confine their examination to matters vented from proceeding any further, by the of fact respecting the tampering with witauthority of the chair, and was ordered to nesses, and suppressing of evidence.” withdraw.
T. Weatherhead was next examined. He The Speaker observed, that the house stated, that he had been long acquainted would judge for itself what it was proper with Drake, who had been a shipmate of his. for it to do after the proceeding that had Drake and he called at Mr. Sheridan's, in just taken place, and which appeared to Somerset Place, on the 19th of Feb. He him so extraordinary that he should abstain there saw a very motley crew, such as he from denominating it. He wished also to had never met before, and such as be wished
collect the sense of the house as to its prac- never to meet again, He waited some * tice, in the case of petitioners who prayed time in a large room with this company;
to be heard by themselves or their counsel, when Mr. S. came in. Mr. S. addressed whether having made their election to be himself principally to Drake, with whom be heard by their counsel, they did not relin- continued in close conversation, elbow to quish their right to be heard by them- elbow, for above ten minutes. They were selvès.
at the opposite side of the room from where Lord Howick had been so surprized at witness stood. He did not bear any part the extraordinary conduct of the petitioner, of their conversation, nor did he think it that he had only been prevented by his was audible to any other person in the room.
There was a confused noise among the per-| the 12th of Feb. at Mrs. Drake's, and heard soos present, some of whom stood betwe Johnstone complain of Mr. Drake's mishim and Mr. S., and prevented that gentle- bebaviour towards Mr. Sheridan, and state man from addressing himn, as he several times that Drake was in a carriage with Johnstone attempted. At length, however, Mr. S. did the night before. Witness admitted that be address him, and talked to him about the had been discharged by capt. Trollope, motion which he meant to propose in the under whom he served; but denied that house of commons, for postponing the trial any crime was inputed to him. His disof the election, saying, he knew be had charge was merely the result of the captain's rascals to deal with, and would act accor- pleasure. The first letter for the use of dingly. Witness told Mr. S. at this time, Harris was written by bim; but the second, that what was said of the letter in possession which was much stronger in its terms, was of Harris, was unfounded, and that Mr. S. written by Drake himself. The first was was misinformed, for that he was sure Drake objected to by Harris, principally because would bave nothing to do with a spurious it had the letters M. P. anvexed to Mr. S.'s letter. Drake wrote the second letter in signature. He did know who wrote these the presence of himself and Harris. Wito initials ; though he wrote the letter, he had ness saw this letter before it was signed, nothing to do with the insertion of M. P.; and afterwards, and the words “ treasurer when Drake brought him this letter signed of the navy" were attached to the signature. by Mr. S., he saw, for the first time, the All but the signature was in the hand-writing letters M. P., and they, as well as the sigof Drake. Mr. S., after finding that he was nature, were quite wet. Harris did cerunemployed, promised him (witness) an ap- tainly propose to Drake to give him some pointment at the interview of the 19th of money if he would procure him a letter Feb. He desired him to call at Somerset from sir H. Parker or some other flag Place about two o'clock on the next day. Officer, recommendatory of him in bis He did so call, conceiving it very improper business of slop-selling. He never saw any to make an appointment and not keep it. money paid on this score, but was aware In this call he was accompanied by Drake. (of the contract. He really did believe the When they entered the room, they found an signature to the first letter was that of Mr. old woman in black, an old man also in black, S., but he thought M. P. quite absurd, as and a young man strutting about the room. no parliament existed at the time. He By-and-by anoiher character appeared, advised Drake to destroy the first letter. and soon after Drake called bim, saying, Drake thanked him for the advice, after he "you are not aware of whatsuspicious com- had acted upon it. He never gave this advice pany you are in bere: that fellow, who is under any impression that the signature just come in, is a Bow-street officer.” Upon was a forgery. He entertained no such unthis, be and Drake withdrew fron the room; charitable suspicion. He had no but, on their way out, he was met by a disposition to suspect the genuineness of man of the name of Burgess, whom he un- the second than that of the first letter. derstood afterwards to be Mr. Sheridan's Witness was asked by Mr. $. whether solicitor. This man inmediately saluted there were not 4 or 5 witnesses present at the him with great familiarity, and claimed an only time that be ever happened to see him ? acquaintance with him. But what struck Yes.—Did I not say in your presence, that him was, that the man could not point out I never conversed with any one upon the any place where he had ever met bim, and subject of the Westmiuster election unless he could not remember to have ever seen the three or four witness were present ? A. man before in his life. While Burgess was Something to that effect.-Q. Were you in conversation with Drake and himself, not introduced to me by Drake, upon that Harris came up and joined them; and told the ouly time I ever spoke to you, as a Drake that Mr. S. meant to take him up clergyınan? A. No, I am no cushion on a charge of forgery. Drake was indig-thumper.-Q. Did not Drake describe you nant, and he and witness went away, and j as the Rev. Mr. Weatherbead ? A. It at the first convenient tavern Drake took | might be so, but I did not notice it.-Witout his pencil and sent very sbarp note offness further deposed that Drake was to be reproach to Mr. S. Witness received the remunerated in money for his trouble in Speaker's warrant to attend the committee getting the second letter from Mr. S., and on the 24th of Feb., and received another that Harris promised his vote and interest summons since. He met Mr.Jobustone about for Mr. S. at the election. Witness was present at the supper given at the Bath Hoteltbe extent of 6 or 7 guineas would be given in Piccadilly; where Harris, Daws,and Drake to those who would go out of the way. were. He beard no conversation about the Wallis bad given 58. a day to her husband, letter in the possession of Harris. He James, &c. for the loss of tbeir lime the did not bear any sum of money offered by days they met him; but at last be decirved Drake to Hurris, to induce him to give it, making them any more allowances, as, he nor any request w batever, upon the subject. said, he had lost 71. in the lottery.--). John Richards stuted that he had been em- Balam said he had seen Wallis on the Sibe ployed in the election by Mr. Downes, and of Jan., who had requested bim to speak to that he had received money from Burgess Sperring to keep out of the way, and that by recommendation of Downes, for his ser- Mr. Sheridan would find the money. He vices and expences. On being cross-exa-hadbeen at the house of Burgess with Wale mined by Mr. S., he said he had never seen lis, Pullen, and Sperring; tliat Burgess gave Mr. S. with Mr. Burgess. He had not him 5l. for his loss of time. Sperring had written a threatening letter to Mr. Downes, told him, that he had voted for Paull and but he was obliged to acknowledge that he Hood, on the first day in his own name, had, since the election, written a letter to and on a subsequent day bad voled for S. Mr. T. Sheridan, complaining that he had in the name of Bryan, giving a different not been sufficiently remunerated, and description of his abode. Sperring said, be threatening to go to Mr. Paull's side, and received 108. from Stephen Taylor, in the to do every thing in his power against Mr. presence of Burgess. Wallis said, he was S., unless his demands were complied with. employed by · Burgess. When pressed to Being exainined by the petitioning counsel, state why he was to keep away, or make he stated that he bad been present at conver- others do so, he could stale no particular sations in which Wallis had staled, that the reason. He said, he had given information warrants of the Speaker would be out when to Mr. Paull's agent, of what he bad men. the consideration of the petition was post- tioned. He had seen Mr. Powell frequentponed, and those who chose might go out ly, had told him what had passed when he of the way, and would receive money to saw Burgess, and Powell bad taken down that purpose.- Jeremialı James likewise what he had to say.--Christ. Richardson spoke, to different nieetings at the Peacock, knows Balam. He had gone to see Bur. and afterwards at the Barley Mow, Drury- gess, and met Wallis coming out of Burgess's lane, where Pullen, Richards, and sperring, house in Curzon-streer. He went with one bad met Wallis, who, be said, had treated Gallant and Wallis to a house in Halfthem with a dinner at the Barley Mow, moon street, when Wallis told them that and allowed them money for their loss of when the petition was postponed their sertime in meeting him on the days mentioned. vices would be of no force, and those who Wallis had told them that the warrants chose might go out of the way. The site would be out in consequence of the peti. ness had no reason to keep out of the way. tion being postponed, and that those who He said, he had communicated to Mr. went out of the way would get money to Powell what he did in trying to see Bur
W. bad asked him wbat he meant gess, and in meeting Wallis. It was one to do ; but he would not tell him. W. John Balam that took biin to look for Bursai I, every one in danger might go away. gess ; and the object was to see whether Witness being asked what be meant hy Burgess would utfer them any money to that? he said that he imagined the danger keep out of the way. They did not see referred to was of those who had voted be- Burgess. He had seen Mr. Powell a day or ing bad votes.—Daniel Richardson, spoke two after, and Powell had given him ios. to the same circumstances. He himself had for his loss of time the two days he went no occasion to go out of the way. The with Balam to Curzon-street. He had witness was pressed to explain what he gone from Carey-street, where Mr. Paull's meant by that danger; or, why it should committee sat. He had seen one Percy at have been proposed that any should go out the committee in Carey-street, who knew
lle gave no precise answer. I he had been at Burgess's, and who, after he At last he dropped down overcome with fa- bad gone the first day, encouraged him to tigue or agitation, and was carried out. go back to see what Burgess would say. Anu Richardson spoke to the conversation Being asked whether it was his object to get of Wallis, at the Peacock and the Barley money from Burgess i he said : “ No:" Lut Mow. She added, that he said money to a former answer being read to him, in
of the way.
which he had said the contrars, he admit-vance of 80,0001, the minister employed ted, the object was money. He had gone in that transaction, was, it was well known, a not to ask, but to see if Burgess would ofier meinber of that house, a nobleman distinany money. Being examied by Mr. Sheri- guished by his military exploits in the serdan, he denied that he had lately been locken rice of his country; distinguished also by up with a parcel of pickpockets, in the wis great talents and capabilities of mind. black-hole, Catharine-streel ; but he had That nobleman had, in consequence of the not very lately been at Marlborough-street pressing exigency of affairs in those counoffice.-There not being any more witnes- tries which were the theatre of war, and in ses to be examined, the learned counsel the exercise of the discretionary power enwere informed that on Thursday next they trusted to him by his majesty, advanced might proceed with their summing up, be- money to the amount of about 80,0001. ing mindful, bowever, that, as they had This was not the exact sum, the payments beer directed to do in their opening, they having been made in foreign money; but it should confine themselves to such matters was about that sum. He thought there only as went to support the allegations in could be little difference of opinion in that the petition.
house, as to the expediency of entrusting Mr. Whitbread observed, that, in a case to the nobleman to whom he had alluded where a wish was expressed to punish others a discretionary power to advance a limited for impeding or preventing the regular sum,in case circumstances should require it; course of justice by tampering with witnes- their lordships would, also, he thought, reases, he had never heard of a set of witnesses dily believe that there might have existed who more justly merited the censure of the that pressing exigency of affairs, which tribunal before which they gave their testi- would have rendered the advance of this mony, than those who had then been exa- sum in the way stated, highly adviseable mined at the bar of the house, particularly and expedient ; and he was persuaded their the witness Richardson.
lordships would be of opinion, that such a Sir J. Anstruther thought that the hon. discretionary power could not be entrusted gent. was too limited in his idea of censure ; to better hands. He should therefore merehe (sir J.) was of opinion that Balam was ihely move, That an humble address be presentprincipal man: it was he that employed ed to his majesty, thanking his miajesty for Richardson; and it was necessary, for the his most gracious communication, and exends of justice, that some means should be pressing the readiness of that house to coutaken to secure the witnesses, as was usual cur in such measures as might be necessary in a court of criminal judicature, to answer to enable bis majesty to make good the said for their scandalous prevarication.
sum.-Ordered, Mr. Sheridan intimated that, if he should think it necessary to go into any evidence on his case, it would aniount to a recrimination
Tuesday, March 3. against those who brought the present [FINANCE RESOLUTIONS.] Sir James charge before the house.-Adjourned. Pulteney rose for the purpose of moving his
Resolutions on Finance, pursuant to his for
iner notice. He did not propose to enter Tuesday, March 3.
into any detailed observations on bis plan, (Prussia. The order of the day havirg till bis calculations should be before the been read for taking into consideration his house, and should then content himself majesiy's message,
with shewing that a considerable saving Lord Grenille said, with respect to that would accrue from the adoption of his views, part of the message in which bis majesty without any inconvenience whatever. The informed the house of the conclusion of a necessity stated by the noble lord, on a treaty with Prussia, as it was also slated former ocasion, of giving an advantage to that a copy of the treaty would be laid be- the stockholder, by increasing the amount fore the house as soon as the ratifications of the sinking fund, would be met by his were exchanged, he thought it unnecessary plan. Jf it should be necessary to increase then to enter into any detail respecting it, the sinking fund, that might be done at the proper time for discussing the subject any time, and any to amount, by a loan, being when the treaty should be before the which would bring a large sum into the house. With respect to the other part of market, and keep up the price of stocks. his majesty's message, relative to the ad- If he could shew this, he should hope to
HOUSE OF COMMONS.
HOUSE OF LORDS.