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Parliamentary Proceedings of Lords and Commons for 1791. [0&.
how far the vote of that Houfe, relative to Carlton-house, had been complied with; and alfo to enquire into the application of the 20,000l. voted for the purpofe of adding to Carlton-house, and furnishing the fame.
The Chancellor of the Exchequer faid, he should refift the first, because he thought it unneceffary; and he did not know but he should go beyond his duty as a member of parliament if he yielded to the second.
Mr. Dundas faid, he should also vote against the two motions; this led him into the account of the original tranfaction; whence he contended, that the 20,000l. voted in 1787 was underflood to be founded on an eftimate, and all that was expected to finish Carltonhoufe. The first motion was negatived; and the second put, and agreed to. The Committee was appointed, and consisted of the following gentlemen: Lord Sheffield, Lord John Ruffel,
Mr. J. Smith,
Mr.C.Townshend, Mr. N. Edwards,
Mr. Sheridan, after a fpeech of about an hour, propofed forty refolutions of finance, which it was agreed should be printed and difcuffed on Monday.
And the Chancellor of the Exchequer read feveral other refolutions of a different tendency; to be printed, and taken into confideration at the fame time.
The Lord Chancellor came to the House about three o'clock; and, after prayers were over, his Lordship informed the Houfe, that his Majefty had been pleated to order a commiflion. After which a meffage was fent to the Commons, to require their attendance to hear it read. The Speaker and feveral members attending at the bar, the clerk read the fame, and the royal affent was given to the lottery, Exchequer loan, and eighty-feven other bills.
In the Commons, the fame day, Mr. Gay moved, "that the Koufe fhould order a lift to be prepared of fuch perfons as have been contined fince the first of October, 1790, diftinguishing the names of all fuch as are confined by mefue procefs in England, Wales, and Berwick upon Tweed.
"Alfo, the names and number of all thofe confined in the prifons in the faid places, together with the number of their wives and children, fpecifying fuch as have the allowance under the
"Alfo, the number of perfons confined for debt, and who died fince October, 1780, with the amount of the debts for which they were confined."
Mr. Hippelley feconded the motion. Mr. Burden wifhed to add a few words to the motion juft fubmitted to the Houfe, and moved the following words: “ and distinguishing the courts out of which the procefs iffued, and for which fuch debtors are confined;" which was ordered.
Mr. Gray then moved, "that the fheriffs of the different counties of England, Wales, and Berwick upon Tweed, be directed to fend orders to the diffe rent gaolers and keepers of prifons within their counties, to tranfmit the names of the different perfons confined therein, together with the fums, and the mode of process by which they are imprifoned." Ordered.
The Houfe then went into a Committee on the forty refolutions presented by Mr. Sheridan; and, after a fhort converfation between that gentleman and the Chancellor of the Exchequer, the former moved his first resolution.
The Chanc. of the Exchequer moved an amendment, to add the amount of the land-tax, the malt-tax, and the permanent taxes.
Meffrs. Halbead, Rofe, and Steele, were for the amendment. Mr. Fox, Mr. Sheridan, and the Chancellor of the Exchequer, fpoke feveral times; after which, Mr. Sheridan acquiefcing, the refolution was carried.
Mr. Sheridan moved the fecond refolution; which was oppofed by the Chancellor of the Exchequer, fupported by Mr. Fox, and negatived by the Committee.
The third refolution being moved, Mr. Ryder propoled an amendment, which, in effect, deftroyed the refolution. The amendment was carried.
Mr. Sheridan moved his fourth refolution, and the Chancellor of the Exchequer reverfed it, by moving to omit the word "not;" which amendment was alfo carried.
The Houfe was then refumed, progrefs was reported, and the Committee was ordered to fit again to-morrow. (To be continued.)
I will fend you, at another opportunity,
Mr. URBAN, Rochford, O. 12.
WALKING fome time paft in the fome Roman coins found in Weftmor
parish-church of Kirkby Stephen, in Westmorland, I was furprized to fee the beautiful monument of Lord Thomas Wharton (anceftor of the late diffipated Duke of Wharton, author of the "Earl's Defeat," inferted in your Magazine for Auguft, p. 721), very much defaced by the falling-in of the roof, and a part broken off. After fome trouble in collecting the fragments, I was enabled to make out the infcription. The monument is of alabaster, about four feet high, richly charged on the fides with the family arms, and figures in a kneeling pofture. The top flabs (on which are laid the effigies of Lord W. in armour, and his two ladies,) project about fix inches over the fides (and are fupported at the corners by finall round pillars), around the edge of which is the following infeription Thomas Whartonus jacet hic, et utraque conjux
Elionora fuum, hinc habet Anna, locum. En tibi terra tuum carnes ac offa refumem
Coles animas, tu, Deus alme, tuum.
Gens Whartonus Genus dat honores dextra
Fata mihi dat nominavi bina fuperftes.
Anna fecunda uxor celebri eft de gente
An infertion of the above in your valuable Repofitory may probably incite the inhabitants at least to preferve (by keeping the monument in fome bet er repair) the memory of that late noble family, formerly patrons of the living, and from whole beneficence the poor of the parish enjoy at prefent a yearly do nation of 40 Bibles, diftributed by the Vicar. Yours, &c. T. C. N. B. About fix miles Weft from Kirkby Stephen, near a village called Afhby, is a very remarkable cave, which I do not remember to have seen defcribed by any traveller; it is called AshbyPate-Hole. I found myself amply repaid for my trouble in exploding a part of this fubterraneous pailage. Having but just feen a part of it, I cannot pretend to give you any account; but should wish fome one, who has been more frequently embolomed in its recefies, to give a defcription of it to the publick through the medium of your valuable Magazine. If you think the above is worth infertion,
Mr. URBAN, Sarum, O. 16.
affure your correfpondent Oedipus, that the Rev. Thomas Martin never published any tranflation of Theocritus, nor do I think he ever published any propofal for it. In 1760, he printed an edition of the original in octavo, Greek and Latin, with notes. I am almoft certain the following are all he ever printed. I was intimately acquainted with him from 1740 to the time of his death, and he fent me the MS. of his different works:
1. Explanation of the Accidence and Grammar. 1753, 1s.
2. Imitations of Horace. 1743, IS. 3. Poems on several Occafions. 1745. 4. Matt. Prioris Alma, Lat. verfu Donat. 1763, 18.
5. Theocriti, Mofchi,et Bionis Idyllia, 8vo, Græcè & Latinè, Poetis ex Latinis illuftrata; Notis quibufdam interjectis ; operâ et ftudio Thomæ Martin, A.B. Coll. Ball. apud Oxonienfes olim Scholaris, nunc Scholæ Verlucianæ Magiftri, 1760," 6s. This was dedicated to the Lord Viscount Weymouth.
In 1763, Mrs. Martin published Propofals tor 190 Fables of top, Phædrus, &c. but it was never printed. Yours, &c.
Bath, O. 17. OT knowing where to addrefs a letter to the perfon figning himself One of your Correfpondents, who fhould have named the place of his abode, and is very particular in his enquiries for the portrait of Henry Lawes, one of the Gentlemen of the King's chapel in the reign of Charles the First, and a favou rite compofer of that monaich; I beg leave to fay, that it was never in my poffeffion, but belonged to my father, who gave it to the Bishop of Durham, when his Lordthip held the fee of Sarum; and I have heard nothing to the contrary, but it fill remains in the palace there, where, with proper applica. tion, I make no doubt he might fee it.
Yours, &c. J. ELDERTON,
924 Tablet at Winchester.—Addrefs from Proteftant Diffenters. [O&.
grandfather, father, and fon, fucceffively Clerks of the Privy Seal,
William, the grandfather, had but two fons, both named Thomas; their wives both Amys; their heirs both Henrys; and the heirs of Henrys both Thomas; both their wives were inheritrixes, and both had two fons and one daughter, and both their daughters iffuelefs; both of Oxford; both of the Temple; both officers to Queen Eliza beth and our noble King James; both justices of the peace together; both agreed in arms, the one a knight, the other a captain.
At the Regular Quarterly Meeting of the Committee of Proteftant Diffenting Laymen and Minifters of the three Denominations for the Weft Riding of the County of York, beld at the Strafford's Arms, in Wakefield, on Thursday, September 1, 1791; WATSON SCATCHERD, Efq. in the Chair;
which appear to us to have a higher origin, as they are ftill induftriously circulated, for the most part by anonymous writers, in fome of the public prints.
The fpecious cry of Church and King hath been artfully affumed by our ene. mies, with an evident defign to make the ignorant believe that we are enemies to both, and that neither can be safe while we are fuffered to exift.
That we are not members of the Church of England we have always openly avowed by (the clearest and moft decifive of all declarations) an uniform courfe of conduct. We cannot fubmit to her authority in matters of faith. We cannot appropriate to ourselves, in a folemn act of religious worship, a Form of Prayer which we should not be permitted to adapt to our own views by the alteration or omiffion of a fingle fentence. We cannot difcover in the difcourses of Chrift, or the writings of his
1. RESOLVED unanimously, That Apoftles, any foundation for that dif
an Addrefs to the People of England, ftating the grounds of our Proteftant Diffent, and our general difpofition with refpect to the civil and ecclefiaftical establishment of this country, be published by this Committee, and circulated throughout the kingdom.
II. Refolved unanimously, That the Addrefs now read be adopted by this Meeting, and figned by the Chairman in the name of the Committee.
ADDRESS to the People of England.
WE, the Committee of the Protestant Diffenting Laymen and Minifters of the three Denominations in the Weft Riding of the County of York, now affembled at our flated Quarterly Meeting, cannot, in juftice to ourfelves, and to the general caufe of Religious Liberty, pafs over in filence the atrocious acts which have been lately committed in the town and neighbourhood of Birmingham. On the illegality of the violence which hath been offered to the property of our brethren in that part of the kingdom by a deluded populace, the Civil Judge has already decided in the regular exercife of his office; and we fincerely compaffionate the unhappy wretches, who, as a falutary example to others, have been fentenced to expiate their crimes with their lives. But we deem it fill neceflary, on our part, to obviate the invidious mifreprefentations of our principles and conduct which have produced this fanatical fpirit, and
tinction of ranks in the Christian miniftry which is prescribed in the Epifcopal form of church government. We cannot accede to rules of faith, or modes of worship, in which the civil magiftrate claims a right of interference. In our religious fentiments, and in fuch of our actions as are purely religious, we call no man Mafler upon earth; we reft entirely on the fufficiency of the Scripture, and the right of private judgement. This is a right which the Reformers of the English Churcb themfelves exercifed when they feparated from the Church of Rome; and it is the only right which we affume as the ground of our diffent. In the exercife of it we are led to a great diverfity of fentiment; and we certainly difagree with each other in religious opinions more than fome of us differ from the doctrinal parts of the established Creed. But in this we acquiefce, as the unavoidable effect of perfonal enquiry in the present state of the human underftanding. It is a liberty which we equally give and take: for we dare not judge another's fervant, knowing that to his own mafter he must fland or fall; we fhould think it impious to intrude be tween the confcience of a brother and that venerable Being who alone knoweth his heart.
With thefe fentiments it is not poffible that we fhould have an unfriendly difpofition to the members of the Eftablifhment. We cannot deny them that right to a perfonal choice which we ex
ert ourselves. We may efteem it our duty to address them by argument, and to urge upon them the reafons of our own belief and practice; but we cannot, without a total dereliction of our principles, and a shameless oppofition to all our profeffions, have recourfe to violence, or employ any illiberal artifice in fupport of our caufe. While they retain their prefent opinions, we must be earneftly folicitous that they may preferve the undisturbed enjoyment of their Articles, their Liturgy, and their Epifcopal Government. We have, indeed, no private intereft which can ftimulate us to acts of unchriftian hoftility. We have no defire that our own opinions, or mode of worship, fhould be fupported by the civil magiftrate, or by the aid of a legal impoft. We are willing to truft their prefervation and increafe to the force of truth, and the conviction of mankind. And whatever may be our views concerning the abfolute authority, or general expedience, of a religious cftablishment,, we rejoice in the benefits which are actually produced by the diligent inftruction and exemplary conduct of its Minifters. We efteem a clergyman who refides in his parish, and is at once the friend, the guide, and the patron of his flock, to be one of the moft refpectable, because he ranks with the moft ufeful, of human characters. We are fo far from withing ill to any of the Clergy of the English Eftablish ment, that we should feel a lively pleafure in the removal of every circumftance which appears to us, at prefent, to impede their comfort and ufefulness. We will not hesitate to declare that, in our apprehenfion, their fituation would be liable to much fewer objections, if they were left to the free ftudy of the Sacred Writings, unfettered by fubfcription to human explanations; if pluralities were abfolutely prohibited; if the poorer livings were increased by a diftribution of the ample revenues which are now attached to finecure dignities; and if their ftipends were not railed in a mode which has a manifeft tendency to perpetuate jealoufies between them and the occupiers of lands. In fuggefting thefe imperfections in the prefent adminiftration of the Church, without any view of entering ourfelves into its communion, we do not conceive that we are acting the part of its enemies; for whatever increases its usefulness mult furely add to its strength and stability: but if we should happen to be mistaken in the
probable effect of all or any of these changes, our error cannot produce any juft occafion for alarm. Not being included within its pale, we have no pretence for taking an active part in its concerns: all that we can with propriety do, is to offer our impartial opinion, and to exprefs our benevolent wishes: if the Church of England be ever found to want reformation, that reformation muft originate in the wisdom, and be completed by the virtue, of its own adherents.
Such are the reafons of our diffent, and fuch are our fentiments concerning the Ecclefiaftical Establishment of this country; and we are confident that there is nothing in them which can render us enemies to the State. We have as dear an intereft in the public peace and profperity as the proudest and most elevated of our countrymen. The aggre gate of the property which is poffeffed by individual Diffenters is far from inconfiderable. It is, moreover, for the most part, of that kind which would be the fooneft affected by civil contentions: it is chiefly vefted in commercial stock, or, the machinery of manufactories; and much of it may be diffipated in an hour by the fury of bigoted, or the rapacity of unprincipled, infurgents. The State, therefore, has a valuable pledge for our good behaviour, and might reft fecure from any apprenention that we are inclined to disturb its tranquillity, even if our paft conduct had net furnished fo ftrong a prefumption of our pacific difpofition. But the experience of a century has witnessed our quict fubmiffion to the laws, and our active regard to the welfare of our country. We have been engaged in no rebellion. We have favoured no infurrections.
We are not averfe to acknowledge that, in conjunction with many eminent characters, who have no connexion with us in our religious capacity, we fincerely congratulate the inhabitants of a neighbouring country on their late deliverance from the power of a defpotic government, and their prefent flattering profpect of being bleffed with the poffelfion of legal liberty. We have not the arrogance to believe that we are competent judges of all the measures which have been employed for the attainment of that invaluable good; we are weil aware that many imperfections have al ways attended the belt devifed fchemes of human policy. But whatever may be the errors, the defects, or the inex
Address from the Proteftant Diffenters of Yorkshire.
perience, of fome of their plans, we zhink it fufficiently evident, that more ahan twenty millions of people, who have long been political flaves, are now become freemen. In this aufpicious change we anticipate a glorious addition to the general happiness of mankind. We exult in the reflexion that we live in an age which has produced a body of legiflators, who, by directly difclaiming all offenfive wars, have prefented a new example to an admiring world.
But, while we declare our fatisfaction in the Revolution which has lately taken place in the government of France, we proteft against the conclufior which has been no lefs uncharitably than illogical ly drawn, that we are therefore defirous of a Revolution in our own country. If a Revolution had been defiable at home, we durft not thus have expreffed our joy the horrid dungeons of an English Badille would have terrified us into filence. But we have always boafted that, by the elevation of the Prince of Orange to the throne, and by the Act which fixed the fucceffion on the Houfe of Hanover, our general liberries have been fully recognized and confirmed. We have no wish to get the Act of Settlement repealed, or to alter the prefent form of Government. We are attached to the British Conftitution as it confifts of King, Lords, and Commons. We give our hearty fuffrage to the affignment of the executive department, and of a voice in the legiflation, to the perfon of the King. We have a decided preference for an hereditary Monarchy, fubject only to fuch reftrictions as directly flow from the precedent of 1688; which we devoutly pray that neither we nor our defcendants may ever have occafion to bring into exercife. We refpect a body of Nobles, which, in a political view, have little or no refemblance to that which lately exifted in France. We regard with a zealous veneration the weight which is given to the people at large, in the man gement of the national affairs, by the voice of the Houfe of Commons.
We will not, indeed, pretend to con ceal, that we are not perfectly fatisfied with the prefent Itate of the popular reprefentation. But this is by no means peculiar to us Proteftant D ffenters; in this we only follow, at a humble diftance, fome of the most illuftrious names that ever diftinguished our country. Here we feel that we are Engh fhmen, ndependent of every religious defcrip
tion. Here, therefore, we cannot act as a feparate body. Here we shall always be happy to co-operate with the wife and good; but we will never connect our felves with the feditious and intemperate. It is our deliberate judgement, that the evils we lament will admit of a ready redrefs, and may be confitutionally remedied without the violation of perfonal right, and with equal advantage to the monarch and the people. As an carnet of the peaceable meafures which on this and all other occafions we are determined to pursue, we flatter ou: felves that we may fafely appeal to our general conduct in our late application to Parliament for the repeal of the Corporation and Teft A&s. A few indilcreet expreffions in the refolutions of a fingle foci-ty in a neighbouring county have, indeed, been pointed out, and condemned with a willing afperity; but the publick may be affured that they were entirely d fapprov ed by the general body of Denters. Confcious that we have no particular demerits which can render us unworthy of being admitted to the full privileges of citizens, we spoke in the manly tone of conviction; but in none of our larger affociations did we ever depart from a becoming deference to the Legislative Power. We depend on the juftice of our country. And, though we have been thrice difappointed of our reafonable expectations, we have not given vent to our impatience in deeds of turbulence and rapine. We have been guilty of no violence; we have threatened no mifchief to the perfons or property of our most violent oppofers. And we truft we shall never deviate from our accuftomed good order. We fhall from time to time, as may feem to ourselves expedient, renew our application to Parliament, and refpectfully repeat the grounds of our complaint; but we will not fuffer the moft mortifying neglect or contumelious treatment to provoke us to a breach of the peace. We will wait, with fieady temper, for a change in the public mind, and in the general courfe of our lives will apply, with pa triotic diligence, to the duties of our refpective profeflions. It fhall be our conftant ambition to fill our feveral ftations with credit to ourfelves, and with ufefulness to the community; and if we cannot obtain the cordial effeem of every clafs of our fehow fubjects, we will do all that the Author of Nature hath put in our power, we will endeavour to deferve it.-Signed by order, &c. III. Re