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PROCEEDINGS IN PARLIAMENT. House of COMMONS, December 1., thivking the dangers of the country of such

The House having resolved itself into a serious character as to require some a Committee of Supply, Sir George War- measures of restriction, were still unwilliog der stated, that it was found expedient 10 that those measures should be either geincrease the Marine Forces of the King- neral or permanent. To the third party he dom by adding 2,000 io their present himself inclined, and therefore his vote for number. By that means the Marines The second reading of this bill should be would be able to perfora, all the duty in conditional — namely, that its existence the Dock yards; which had beretofore and operation should be temporary and been performed by troops of the line. local. He should therefore propose a permanent Lord Archibald Hamilton, Mr. John increase of 2000 men; and concluded by Smith, and Mr. Marwell, professed that moving that 23,000 men, including, 8,000 they should give their vote for the Bill Royal Marines, be employed for the sea under the same view as Mr. Abercromby. service during the year 1820. After some Lord Folkestone, Mr. Lytlelton, Mr. conversation, the motion was agreed 10. Brougham, Mr. Coke (of Norfolk), Mr. W.

The Chancellor of the E.cchequer pro Smith, and Mr. Macdonald, spoke against posed a resolution for subjecting Pamph- the Bill. Jets of a certain description not exceed- On a division, the second reading was iog two sheets in size, and sixpence' in carried by 351 to 128. price, to the same Stamp Duty as Newspapers.

House of LORDS, Dec. 3. After a few words from Mr. Brougham, The Lord Chancellor moved the second the Resolution was agreed to,

reading of the Bill to accelerate trials in

cases of Misdemeanour. His Lordship House of LORDs, Dec. 2.

explained the inconveniences felt from the The Training Prevention Bill, and the existing delays, and said he should have Seizure of Arms Bill, were severally read no objection to the introduction of a clause, a second time. The only new feature in for allowing a defendant a copy of the inthe debate on this subject was the admis- forination or indictinent against him, free sion of the Earl of Durlington, a Whig of expence. hitherto staunch, that some such peasures The Bill was opposed by Lords Gtosve. as those now proposed by Ministers were nor, Erskine, and Holland, and supported necessary; and that he had received in

by Lords Liverpool and Lilford. It was formation from the county of Durham, then read a second time. since his departure from thence to attend The Seizure of Arms Bill and the Train. his duty in Parliament, that secret associ- ing Prevention Bill went through Commit. ations were still held in that part of the tees without any amendment; those procountry.

posed by Lord Darnley and others, having

been negatived without a division. In the Commons the same day, on the Lord Strathmore's asserijon on a former motion for the second reading of the Sedi- night, as to there being 16,000 persons contious Meetings Prevention Bill, which was nected with the collieries in the Wear and proposed by Mr. Grenfell, froin the oppo. Tyve ripe for rebellion, was confirmed by sition bencb, that gentleman stated, that the Duke of Northumberlanıl. They were he was prepared to give bis steady and said to be all aimed, and boasted that they hearty concurrence and support to all the could muster a force of 100,000 men. measures recommended by Lord Castlereagh. (Hear! hear!) A lengthened In the Commons the same day, Lord discussion took place. The speakers in Castlereagh moved that the Seditious Meet. support of the new Bills were the Solicitor ings Prevention Bill be committed. General, Lord Lascelles, Mr. Peel, Mr. Mr. Lambton aud Sir M. W. Ridley conWilmot, and Lord Palmerston.

tradicted what had been stated in another Mr. Abercromby stated, that as far as he place, as to oumbers of persons having atcould collect the state of opinion in the tended meetings at Newcastle and other House, in this case, there were three par parts in the north, with arms in their pos. ties : one comprehending those who were session. ready to support the noble Jord (Castle. Lord Castlereagh brought up a Bill, to reagb) to the full extent of his proposition; make certain publications liable to the another, who were determined to oppose stamp duty, ju order to prevent the publihis views altogether; and a third, who, cation of seditious and blasphemous libels.



He moved that it should be read the first level with felons: for these reasons be time.

would vote against the bill. Mr. Brougham protested against the The Lord Chancellor said, tbat the bill measure in this early stage, as an unjusti-, was necessary for the support of the confiable encroachment on the liberty of the stitution of the country. press. The Bili was read the first time, Earl Grey looked upon these bills as an

infringement of the constitution, and tbat

they would tend to the destrnction of it. House op LORDS, Dec. 6.

He hoped he might be deceived, and that Viscount Sidmouth rose to move the se- they would turn out as Ministers had progcond reading of the Bill for the more ef- posticated, and be the preservation of the fectual prevention and punishment of blas- constitution. phemous and seditious libels.

The Earl of Liverpool contended that the Lord Erskine said, it fell to him to ap- measure was necessary

for the

preservation prise their Lordships, that the Bill related of the constitution, and of every thing that both to blasphemous and seditious libels, contributed to social order in the comtwo offences totally and essentially dif- munity. ferent. The present Bill was not calcu. The Earl of Carnarvon was opposed to lated to deter the blasphemer; and the the whole of the measure. object which they all had in view, would The Duke of Sussex and the Earl of be best attained by a rigorous enforcement Blessinton could not conscientiously sup. of the law row in operation. If he were port the present bill. to advise the people how to act, he would The Bill was then read a second time, say, give up your wild notions of universal On the motion for bringing up the resuffrage and annual parliaments, which port of the Search for Arms Bill, must bring ruin upon your country, stick Earl Grey said, he must pause before he to your present constitution, and if you consented to a bill of this nature.

It was unite firmly, and express your opinions a measure of unprecedented power, and strongly, it will be impossible to affect the subversive of the rights of Englishmen. integrity of your freedom.

The Earl of Strathmore read extracts The Earl of Harrowby contended that from letters received that morning from they who proposed the means of correcting two Magistrates and the Commandingthe abuses of the press, were the best Officer at Newcastle, which stated their apfriends of its liberty ; they only pruned prehension of a simultaneous movement of its licentiousness to secure its eternity. the disaffected as likely soon to take place.

The Marquis of Lansdown remarked, He hoped no time would be lost in passing that the punishment of transportation was the bill, conceiving it, as be did, a mea. wholly inapplicable to this kind of offence, sure necessary to prevent insurrection. that it was in itself unequal, and was para Lord Erskine said the bill was without a ticularly inappropriate when applied to precedent in the annals of Parliament. those individuals who were most likely to compose such writings as would be termed In the Commons the same day, Lord libellous. Buonaparte,whose extraordinary Castlereagh, on moving for the re-commit. apprehension of the freedom of the

press tal of the Seditious Meetings Bill, said that was one of the defects in his understanding, it was intended to propose some amendnever contemplated so severe a punish- ments on it. The first would exclude from ment as transportation, well knowing that its operation all meetings held in rooins or the very severity of the law would defeat apartinents. Another would obviate the his owu object.

objection made on the ground of attaching Lord Ellenborough said, the libels which penalties to persons accidentally attending had been disseminated, went to dissolve the meetings in the parish they did not belong ground-works of the Constitution, and it to, by limiting the penalties to persons was, therefore, that he desired more ef- knowingly offending: and to prevent stranfectual means of checking them, than ex- gers going designedly to make the meeting isted at present. This would be attained illegal, he should propose that after proby the present bill, and he doubted not clamation made, every inhabitant of the that its provisions would be found ef- parish should be armed with the authority fectual.

of a constable, and justified in apprehendLord Holland declared, that of all the ing and taking before a magistrate any measures which had come before Parlia- stranger found present. He could not ment, or were still threatened, not one was agree to make the measure local, as that possessed of greater deformity than that would entirely defeat its object; but as which was then before them. It went to there seemed to be a general feeling that alter the law of the country by assimilating it should not be permanent, he would acthe punishment for small faults to that for cede to a proposition limiting its duration great crimes; and it went to put honour- to five years, and to the then next meeting able men, who might err in their zeal, on a of Parliament.


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Mr. Curwen could not vote for the mea- a division ; and that of Mr. Buxton was sure, unless confined to the disaffected negatived, on a division, by 328 to 153. districts.

Mr. Vansittart's instruction was then carMr. V. Fitzgerald strongly approved of ried without a division, and the House went the measure, more especially as proposed into a Committee, pro forma, when progress to be amended by Lord C.

was immediately reported. Sir R. Wilson strongly reprobated the series of measures in progress, as shewing

House of LORDS, Dec. 7. an inclination to govern by the sword in

The Misdemeanour Traverse Prevenstead of the law. Mr. Grenfell approved of the Bill, li.

tion Bill went through a Committee, in mited as it was to five years. He regret- which, on the motion of the Lord Chan. ted the countenance given by the gallant cellor, the blank, as to the time withia

which parties must plead, was filled up, General to Mr. Hunt, at the Southwark

with the words “twenty days;' and a meeting.

clause was added for granting copies of Sir R. Wilson said, he had shaken hands

indictments to defendants. with Mr. Hunt as a man who stood forward in support of the liberties of his country.

On the question for the third reading of He should have felt himself more disho

the Search for Arms Bill, Lord Darnley noured if he had stretched forth his hand again urged the propriety of limiting the to take the bloody hands of those who had right of search to the day time.

Lord Sidmouth could not consent to any presided over the massacre of their coun

alteration. The Bill was then read the trymen. (Order, order!) Mr. V. Blake thought it might reconcile

third time, and passed, as was also the

Military Trainiug Prevention Bill. the gallant General to the Bill, that Cob

The Libel Bill went through a Combett had said there was still enongh of the

mittee, in which some amendments, proliberty of the press for him (Cobbett) 10 work with.

posed by Lord Sidmouth, were agreed to. Mr. Ricardo thought a moderate parlía. mentary reform the best means of prevent- In the Commons, the same day, Lord ing the meetings complained of.

Castlereagh moved the order of the day Mr. Alderman Waithman condemued the for going into the Committee ou the Sedi. proceedings at Manchester, and the whole tious Meetings Bill. series of coercive measures now resorted to. Mr. C. Hutchinson opposed the extenMr. Wilson (Member for the city) sup. sion of the Bill 10 Ireland.

He was conported the Bill.

vinced, when the Noble Lord brought this Mr. G. Lambe said, the only remedies measure forward, he did not contemplate for the distress of the country were the extending it to that country, which he equalization of the national income with had described as quiet and Aourishing. the expenditure, and parliamentary re- He should certainly move to exempt Ireform. He wished the poor to be relieved land from the operation of the Bill. from a number of taxes, and a tax on pro. Lord Castlereagh said, the proper time perty to be substituted.

for doing so would be in the Committee. After some observations for and against The House then went into a Committee. the Bill, by several other Members, the Sir Charles Monck, as an amendment, question for the re-committal of the Bill proposed to exclude Lord Lieutenants of was carried without a division. On that Counties from any power of granting for the Speaker leaving the chair, Colonel meetings, but the amendment was negaBeaumont moved an instruction to the tived without dividing. Committee, to provide that the Bill should Mr. Brougham strongly objected to the not extend beyond six weeks after the com- clause confining the right of meeting in mencemeot of the next Session of Parlia. aggregate numbers to cities, boroughs, and ment. Mr. Vansittart proposed an instruc- corporate towns. This clause, as it was tion limiting the duration of the Bill to five now worded, would exclude some of ihe most years. Mr. Calcraft and Lord Milton op- populous towns in the kingdom,andamongst posed fthe measure in toto. Mr. Bankes them Manchester and Birmingham. supported it. Mr. Perceval said, he should Lord Castlereagh stated, that it was his vote against the Bill, as a dangerous inno. intention to extend the provisions of the vation on the covstitution. Mr. Wilber- Bill to meetings for the purposes of trade force approved of extending the period to and manufactures, if held in the open air. five years. Mr. Marryat wished the pe- From recent examples, it appeared that riod to be three years; and Mr. F. Buxton such meetings had occasionally deviated said, if Col. Beaumont's motion was nega- into political discussious, and made such tived, he should move an instruction to a provision necessary. that effect.

Mr. Marryat stated, that no room would After soine observations from Mr. C. be sufficient to hold such a number of the Wynn, Mr. Maxwell, and others, Colonel merchants, traders, and bankers, of LonBeaumont's motion was negatived without don, as had upon former occasions, by the

resolutiors and the absurd laws against emigration House of Lords, Dec. 9.

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resolutions they had come to, given con- which it is provided, that copies of indict. fidence both to the Government and to the ments shall be furnished to defendants bepublic.

fore instead of after appearance, Lord Castlereagh was fully sensible of Lord Holland suggested another amend. the beneficial effects of such meetings; ment, providing, that if defendants, who but thought Guildhall would be sufficient were indicted on ex officio informations, for the purpose.

were 'not brought to trial in eighteen After debating on various proposed months, dating from the first process, no amendments, which were negatived, further kind of proceedings should be had

Mr. W. Smith moved that the House thereupon, excepting where the trial stood should now adjourn, on account of the hour postponed by order of the Court. His (half-past one).

Lordship, however, withdrew this amend. The Committee divided-For adjourning ment, on a promise from the Lord Chao36—against it 166.

cellor, that he would lend his aid in framSome further conversation ensued, when jog a separate Bill, calculated to accom

Lord Custlereagh said, he would not now plish the object in view, if not precisely to press a proceeding, but move that the

the same effect as the clause proposed. Chairman should report progress, and ask The Bill for preventing and punisbiog leave to sit again.'

Seditious Libels next occupied the attention This morion was agreed to.--

-Adjourned of the House. at two o'clock.

In the course of the discussion, Lord

Ellenborough introduced, by way of amendDec. 8.

ment, the following definition of what was The Drilling and Training Prevention to be considered a seditious libel:- That Bill was brought from the House of Lords, after the words “ Seditious Libels,” should and read the first and second time, and be inserted, as were calculated to bring ordered to be printed. This bill was expe- into hatred and contempt his Majesty's dited through all its stages in consequence Person and Government, or either House of alleged information that the practice of of Parliament, or to aim at the subversion drilling and training was gaining ground to of the Constitution in Church and State, an alarming extent in the north of Eng- as by law established." land.

The Earl of Liverpool would not object Mr. Stuart Wortley stated, upon the all- to the amendment. thority of information received by himself, Lord Erskine and Lord Holland both that ihe practice bad spread into the spoke agaiust the transportation, or banish. county of York ; that bodies of from one

ment of persons convicted of seditious to two hundred men assembled nightly in libels. the vicinity of Barnsley, Burton, and several of the neighbouring towns, for the pur. In the Commons the same day, Mr. pose of training.

Bennet addressed the House at great length Sir J. Graham said it had spread into the on the tale of the manufacturing districts. county of Cumberland, and had become He described the extreme distress existing frequent in the neighbourhood of Car- in various districts in England and ScotJisle. They had recently cut down young laod, from the want of employment, the plantations, chiefly for the purpose of oil. low rate of wages, anil the severe pressure ting pike.heads to the staves which they of taxation. !o Lancashire this distress, forined from the young trees. One smith and the discontenis arising therefrom, had received orders to make twelve dozen

were greatly aggravated by the animnosities of pike beads, which he had communicated between the magistrates and the great to a magistrate : orders to a large a:nonnt mass of the population, and from the dewere given to other smiths, who did vot nial of all inquiry into the occurrences at inform the magistrates.

Manchester on the 16th of August. The Another Member declared he had heard magistracy of that place had uniformly that these nocturnal meetings were very been of high Tory politics, whilst the peo. frequent in the vicinity of the manufactur- ple, from having been Jacobites, had be. ing towns in Lancashire.

come attached to liberality of opinion and The Search for Arms Bill was also social liberty. If no relief was adminis. brought from the Loidi, and read the first tered to a starving population, discontent time.

must increase, and in the end produce de. The House sat in Committee for a con. spair. It was not fair to expect that the siderable time upon the Seditivus Meet people should do every thing, and the Goings Bill, and about one in the inorning vernment nothing. Many public works the report was brought up, and ordered to might be undertaken, though not palaces. be received next day.

Roads and canals might be constructed,

might be repealed. All who could not An amendment was introduced into the earn a livelihood at home should be allow. Bill for Preventing Delays of Justice, by ed to go abroad, and to people desart


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HOUSE OF LORDs, Dec. 11. come important parts of the empire. He The Royal Assent was given, by comconcluded by moving for the appointment mission, to the Bill for the Prevention of of a Committee to inquire into the present Military Training. state of the manufacturing districts. Lord Castlereagh objected to the ap

Dec. 13. pointment of a Committee, as tending to The Lord Chancellor, on moving the third no practical good, whilst, under all the cir- reading of the Traverse Bill, introduced a cumstances of the case, it would be a re. clause, fixing the time within which prosecipe for discontent and disturbance, by cutions for misdemeanors on information leading to a discussion of all the topics or indictment, by the Attorney-General, which had already occupied the attention should be brought on.

The clàuse enacts, of Parliament.

that if the trial does not take place at the Mr. Canning, Mr. Wilberforce, Mr. Stu- expiration of 12 months from the time of art Wortley, the Lord Advocate of Scotland, pleading, the defendant may then call Mr. Peel, Mr. Bootle Wilbraham, and Mr. upon the Attorney-General to proceed to Mansfield, were also averse to the motion, trial within 20 days; and if the latter connected as it had been by the honourable should not then proceed, he must enter a Mover with so many extraneous subjects, noli prosequi, and the defendant would thus and so much of parly politics.

be entirely freed from the prosecution. Mr. Buring spoke in favour of the mo. Lord Holland expressed his warm action; in the course of which he averred, knowledgments to the noble and learned that the great capitalists in the manufac- Lord for this clause, and declared, that, turing districts were sending their pro- united with another which had been introperty abroad.

duced (that of allowing to defendants coMr. Tierney spoke with great energy and pies of iodictments), he had no hesitation ability in support of the motion, and was in giving the Bill his rote ; for, compared followed by Lord Folkestone, Messrs. Ellice, with the law as it now stood, the measure, Phillips, Maxwell, and others. The motion altogether, was a great improvement. was ultimately negatived without a di. The Bill was then passed. vision.

In the Commons the same day, the ques. House of Lords, Dec. 10.

tion of privilege, as respecting the “ scanThe Training Prevention Bill was re. dalous libel" against the House, came upceived from the Commons with amend- der discussion. Previously to calling in ments, which, on the motion of Lord Sid. the publisher of the pamphlet, Mr. Ellice mouth, were agreed to by their Lordships. stated in his place, that he was authorised

Lord Sidmouth moved the third reading to declare John Cam Hobhouse, esq. the of the Blasphemous and Seditious Libel writer of it. The publisher was accordBill.

ingly dismissed ; and after a short debate Lord Carnarvon moved an amendment Mr. Hobhouse was ordered to be commitfor limiting the duration of the Bill to ted to Newgate. An amendment was protwo years.

posed, that instead of loting sent to NewIt was supported by Lords Rosslyn, Ers. gate, he should be committed to the cuskine, Holland, and Grosvenor, and opposed tody of the Serjeant-at-Arms, which was by Lords Sidmouth, Westmorland, and Lilo negatived by 198 to 65. ford, the Duke of Wellington, and the Lord Castlereagh moved the third reading Bishop of Llandaff.

It was then nega.

of the Seditious Meetings Prevention Bill. tived without a division, and the Bill pas

Lord Archibald Hamilton supported the sed, and was sent to the Commons.

measure, on account of the disturbed state

of the manufacturing districts; begging it, In the Commons the same day, a long however, to be understood, that he asconversation took place upon a question sented to none of the proceedings that had of privilege, brought forwards by Mr. W. taken place as to Manchester, and that he Courtenay, arising out of a pamphlet lately regretted that the House had not acceded published uoder the title, A Trifling Mis. to Mr. Bennet's motion for a Committee of take in Thomas Lord Erskine's recent Inquiry into the distressed state of the Preface.” The work, from which several country. extremely violent passages were read, was The Bill was then supported by Mr. introduced to the notice of the House in Plunkett, Mr. Robinson, Mr. L. Wellesley, the Debate of Thursday night by Mr. S. the Attorney and Solicitor Generals, Mr. Wortley. The subject was disposed of for Martin (of Galway), and Mr. Bankes, jun.; the present by summoning the publisher and opposed by Mr. C. Hutchinson, Lord to the Bar on the 13th inst.

Milton, Mr. W. Smith, Mr. W. Williams, The Libel Prevention Bill was read the Lord Morpeth, Mr. Lambton, Mr. Scarlett, first time; and the Arms Seizing Bill a Mr. Denman, Lord Folkestone, and Mr. second time,

Honeywood ; and on a division the inotion Gent. MAG. Suppl. LXXXIX. Part II.


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